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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-21 21:43 [#00523364]
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I've got tons of MP3s, and I've copied all my best CDs (all Beatles at 320kbs of course) to my harddrive because I HATE CDs. And now my listening is SO erratic, because thousands of songs are a click away, instead of having to go over to the CD player and put something in, seek out the track, etc...
I know some artists ''construct'' an album to flow and all that, tell a story, songs within a context, but I just can't listen to music in that way anymore. I remember before I had a CPU, listening to Dark Side of the Moon thinking ''what the fuck, I'll bounce around the album any way I want, I don't care. I don't want to listen to the Great Gig in the Sky right now''. They could have arranged the songs any way they wanted and make an argument for it still ''flowing'' and telling a story or keeping a theme. I like individual tracks.
So MP3s are great for me, because I rarely even listen to two songs in a row from the same ARTIST, let alone the same track listing or album. I just bounce back and forth so erraticly and randomly depending on what I want to hear THIS SECOND, AFTER THE CURRENT SONG ENDS.
I know a lot of people like to sit down with an album and digest it as the ''artist intended'', and that's cool, but it ain't for me, never was.
And people tell me that I'm ''missing out'' or some shit... wha? No, I enjoy music more than ever now that the convenience to suit my random tastes is right here. I do NOT like sitting down with one album, ever, never have. I'm a ''kinetic'' music listener. :-) I don't make playlists because I hate knowing what's coming up, it's totally improvised, and often there's some insane pattern to my listening in my subconsious. Making my own mental albums.
Rant over.
Anyone else here that doesn't ever give a shit about albums? Or am I psychotic. Concept albums in particular piss me off.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-21 21:47 [#00523366]
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Yeah its better to just go with what your in the mood for at the momment.
(answer your damn mail!!!!)
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-01-21 21:51 [#00523369]
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YOU piss me off. I haven't been on here in months and when I finally come back I find this bitch topic greeting me at the top of the page.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-01-21 21:51 [#00523370]
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I'm completely the opposite of you, Ophecks. I love a hard format like CD, because it makes me feel like I own the music and have given proper respect to the artist who put it out.
I also appreciate ALBUMS, not just individuals songs. Albums, well-constructed, inspired and well-paced musically do much more than any mix can (though I can appreciate a good mix).
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-21 21:53 [#00523372]
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I notice that when ever I go to my friends house and I play cds, I cant sit down and listen to Two tracks from the same cd consecutively. Im either flippin around or frantically switching cds, wich takes foorrreeevverrrr.. Cds are definetly a pain in the ass now.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-01-21 21:56 [#00523373]
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eh.. the only albums I can appreciate as a 'whole' and in its original track orders are from progressive rock bands.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-21 21:58 [#00523375]
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Ha, ok, check your mail. I'm as random with my e-mail as I am with my music.
And Dawheeze, I like CDs, I've got a lot of them and they make me feel warm and fuzzy inside but now they're all collecting dust because I can't STAND being limited to 70 minutes of the same artist!
But there's exceptions- Abbey Road, that muthafucka FLOWS. The Pink Floyd ''concept album'' shit turns me right off, though.
Different strokes for different folks. :-)
This is annoying for me because I'm in a constant state of indecision... making up my mind every 3 or 4 minutes.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-21 22:00 [#00523378]
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I missed you shnookums.
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rarndaraki
from from from from (United States) on 2003-01-21 22:02 [#00523382]
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im listening to the amelie soundtrack, it flows.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-01-21 22:53 [#00523417]
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...if u dont like them as a whole, or like one track at a time more, then i guess youre not missing much
im not a big fan of playlists either, im always choosing now what i want to hear as the next few songs
but i like to listen to entire good albums from good artists... if the songs fit together nicely they dont have to have some unifying concept beyond that to be an acceptable format of listening organization for me
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 01:37 [#00523502]
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yeah, now my music is all on mp3 i dont listen to whole albums much if ever, just a track of this, a track of that.... but i do think some albums are best listened to as a whole for 'full effect'
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 02:38 [#00523516]
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I used to have everything ripped to MP3, but they've all been deleted and now I only listen to CDs.
I can see the appeal in having everything on your computer, just randomly playing, but it would irritate me to have CDs that I couldn't rip because of copy protection. I want to be able to listen to all my music in the same format.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-01-22 02:52 [#00523523]
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for some reason i love listening to a song taken from a mixed album, by itself. theres no empty intro or ending fading away, its one thick song. if that makes sence.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-22 03:04 [#00523531]
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I prefer listen albums... anyway i like my own compilation too.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-22 03:43 [#00523547]
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i almost hate mp3s im looking for a cd player coz i only listen on my pc for now, and it shits me cos i dont take the time to stand up and take the cd..
:(( im not happy with that
get up, stand up, push the funk (michael youn as alphonse brown)
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nacmat
on 2003-01-22 04:18 [#00523589]
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sometimes a track has a meaning on its own... but other times its meaning is richer when understood as a part of the whole (the album) in this case you are missing out that extra meaning.
but its just a matter of what you like
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uzim
on 2003-01-22 05:58 [#00523677]
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i like putting my full mp3 library in random mode... but iTunes kinda sucks for randomness, with 700+ tracks it still falls too often on the same tracks - they'd have to correct their random imo...
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-01-22 06:29 [#00523720]
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I can only listen to music is rotted one note as an album, i can't just play individual tracks.
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-22 06:32 [#00523726]
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music is rotted one note... very hard to listen to full stop if u ask me, not that u did
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-22 11:58 [#00524020]
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Ophecks, I'm in the same situation as you (every song at the touch of a button), but I still listen mostly to albums, not individual tracks. I also have a few custom playlists here and there.
I actually thought that I would get away from the album concept, but it never happened.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-22 12:09 [#00524031]
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I totally disagree with you there ophecks ;-)
It always makes me feel weird to listen to a song "out of context"... it's still the same song i guess, but it just doesn't feel right disconnected from the album it came from. I always listen to entire albums...
I bet if you just listen to individual tracks randomly... there must be certain tracks (piano's from druqks (or lornaderek), or the short BoC-tracks that don't get played much at all?? Or do you actually make the effort to put on less then one minute of BoC? (something like "ready lets go"... god... i can't imagine to that song without "music is math" following immediately after it :-p)
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nacmat
on 2003-01-22 12:14 [#00524033]
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""I can only listen to music is rotted one note as an album, i
can't just play individual tracks. ""
just a perfect example
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-01-22 18:22 [#00524568]
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yes, great example!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-01-22 18:48 [#00524585]
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Funny, today I listened Circular Flexing by itself, as a stand alone track away from it's album-brethen, and I lubbed it. :-)
''I bet if you just listen to individual tracks randomly... there must be certain tracks (piano's from druqks (or lornaderek), or the short BoC-tracks that don't get played much at all?? ''
True! But I DO give every track a fair shot at impressing me and growing on me (Nannou2, which I thought was boring, but I kept listneing to it occasionally and it grew) , and if it doesn't (Lornaderek), I may never listen to it again... because I don't need to and I don't WANT to. I listen to music literally every waking moment... it ALL gets heard, sooner or later, and I weed out the weaklings. I don't like hearing an album's weak tracks... God, you'd have to tie me up to force me to listen to some of the Wall's filler tracks.
And it's not random in the sense that I actually use the RANDOM option or I just click on whatever. It's just that after every song, EVERY song, I decide what I want to listen to based on... whatever.
It's not totally random, there are patterns... certain songs may remind me of others and make me want to listen to something that sounds similar, etc. So you'll get a bunch of sounds that sound like they're from the same... uh, foodgroup. :-)
I dunno... this is the way I like to hear music, my own wacky mixes.
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-01-22 19:02 [#00524588]
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In nature there are patterns. Graph any system and patterns will emerge.
but anyway
I like sitting down in my room with my good cans on and just digesting an album in my leather chair. Sometimes I just like one song at a time, but for the most part I'm a cd/album guy. Something about a great whole (rather than just parts) makes it worthwhile for me. On that note, a song could be worthwhile in itself, (a lot are) but I look at an album as a team. Some members are better at this or that but they all compliment each other and without that they will fall.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-23 09:52 [#00525299]
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"I may never listen to it again... because I don't need to and I don't WANT to."
hehe... yes, can't argue with you there ;-) If this way of listening makes you happy, by all means continue to do so.
The little tracks... like lornaderek. Ofcourse i do not think that "song" is particularly beautiful. It's just an anwseringmachine-message... it's not intended to be beautiful to listen to. It just works in the album-context.
But having an album with only fantastic moments would perhaps be a little bit too much... or something. I always remember a documentary i saw about Björk, who said you sometimes need something ugly, to make the beautiful things stand out more. For me it works exactly like that. On all my favourite albums there are certain tracks or parts of songs that i don't like... but i feel like the album needs those aswell, to become more balanced perhaps.
I can't imagine listening to a BoC album, that would only have the songs that last longer than 2 minutes. I am always so overwhelmed by the beauty of those long songs, that i need the short little interludes to "calm me down" so to speak, and prepare me for the next beautiful song.
I still think you're missing out on alot, listening to music the way you do ;-) But it's probably just a matter of personal preference. As long as i don't have to listen to your crazy mix of songs together with you, you may skip as many tracks as you like :-p
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eerik
from Estonia on 2003-01-23 11:06 [#00525385]
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Usually I listen to music the same way Ophex does. I don't think I miss out on anything due to taking songs out of their context because I put the songs together into a new context every time I sit down to listen to music. It's like compiling a new album for myself every time.
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bird
from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 11:55 [#00525459]
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a little bit off topic... but since coming here, and getting soulseek, its so easy to check new music makers/ bands by just downloading them.. But taking the songs out of context, from an album/compilation, and not knowing anything about the creator of the song (usually someone says hey, susumu yokota is great! check the song 'kodomotachi'... so its downloaded, added to the ever growing playlist..) i
ummmm.. what i'm trying to say is. . . .
there is sooo much music out there, and i'm just not so easiy impressed anymore! which is such a scary thought.... i'll be doing the dishes and some venetian snares or merzbow is playing, and it'll go right past me... Doesn't shock or, impress me... i don't want that to happen when when i'm listening to my Come To Daddy ep
can anyone understand this? and maybe make it a bit clearer...? my english is not so good... >.<
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-01-23 12:01 [#00525470]
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My guess is that you're NOT a big fan of Cylob's "latest effort": Mood Bells. Am i right? ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-23 12:26 [#00525499]
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"is playing, and it'll go right past me... Doesn't shock or, impress me..."
Yeah... that makes sense. Overexposure to music. You're just downloading too much :-p
You should just delete all your filesharing programs ;-)
But you won't, so then let me suggest you to atleast download less music for awhile, and give the songs that you do download a chance to sink in.
Or ofcourse you could go out and buy a proper cd :-D For instance the album "sakura" where the song kodomotachi comes from. When you've spent some money on it, you'll be more motivated to keep listening to it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-23 12:30 [#00525509]
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HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
i am on the same on the computerr, i like to skip, but at the same time, on a night, i am happy to listen to an album all the way thrrough.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-01-23 12:33 [#00525512]
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my mp3 list is my album, with constant flux and change...
the soundtrack to my life :)
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bird
from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 12:34 [#00525515]
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"When you've spent some money on it, you'll be more motivated to keep listening to it"
yes! very true... but.. oh.. i jus started downloading some plaid...and i gotta get the rest of the vincent gallo - when ep.... >.<
from tomorrow! definitely i'll take your advice... if you see me online!... tell me to fuck off...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-01-23 12:40 [#00525525]
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HA. i was just about to make a post about how shit Vincent Gallo is "o i am so arrtistic, i can do do anything".
(no offence to you btw) but i hate him. i don't know all of his stuff, so i should not be so offencive about him... but i am being anyway...
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bird
from New Zealand, but in (Switzerland) on 2003-01-23 12:54 [#00525550]
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ha! hes goodlooking though . gotta give him that.... although goodlooking people are ususually dicks but i like some of his music sometimes.
thats good enough reason for me! btw no offence takin dude~
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