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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 12:12 [#00522734]
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I am going to burn a cd with my mp3 of hab 1 and 2.
the question is:
shall I delete the 2 seconds time between tracks?
in other way: in the original releases, do the tracks go together or is there some silence in between?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 12:13 [#00522736]
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My mp3's are fine. No gap, 256kbs.
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 12:15 [#00522737]
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mine are 320... but nero does put the gap and I want to know if I have to delete it and if so how
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-21 12:21 [#00522742]
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I don't recall any gapless tracks on these records.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 12:22 [#00522743]
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The gap is just because nero puts one there. I doubt there was a 2 sec gap on the vinyl. If you ever heard the mp3 that had the 3 sec of the next song at the end it would seem like there is no gap. So I'd go with no gap. Use some kind of wave/mp3 editor like soundforge and convert them to waves if need to do some editing. If you burn them "Disc-at-once" rather than "track-at-once" you should fine.
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sine707
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2003-01-21 12:22 [#00522744]
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highlight the tracks, right click, and set the gap to 0 seconds. that's it :)
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sine707
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2003-01-21 12:22 [#00522745]
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oh, yeah, and use "disc-at-once"
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 12:22 [#00522746]
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Of course theres a bit of silence where one song ends and the next begins, but "digital silence" so to speak.
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 12:26 [#00522749]
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thanks!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-21 12:26 [#00522750]
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Would someone perhaps be kind enough to also make such a CD for me?
I guess my opinions on MP3 and filesharing are always pretty clear ;-) But HAB is an exception... since there is no way (unless you are rich and feel like filling up the wallet of some ebay-seller) of obtaining the original HAB-releases. I don't feel like i'd be stealing from richard if i copy an ultra-rare release that is long sold out anyway.
And almost everytime i come to this board, i hear someone talking about how HAB contains some of richard's best songs ever. It's making me very curious!
But the computer i'm working from doesn't belong to me. (it's my mothers... and she doesn't like it when i download programs from the internet (like soulseek))... plus i don't have acces to a cd-burner, so even if i had soulseek i still wouldn't be able to listen to HAB in the comfort of my own room.
So now i am begging for the generosity of a fellow boardmember who might help me out?? :-D
I don't really have any rare idm-stuff to trade you with, but i will ofcourse pay for the shippingcosts and the cd-r....
I would be very grateful to you and forever in your debt... please? Please pretty please with cherries on top? ;-)
If someone is kind enough just reply on the board or drop me a line at ikbenerik@hotmail.com...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-21 12:40 [#00522757]
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Don't forget that because of limitations in the mp3 format, you can't make a truly "gapless" CD from a collection of mp3s.
But Nero does have a nice crossfading feature that comes pretty close. Reduce the track gap to 0 seconds, turn on crossfading for 1 frame, and burn disc-at-once. This should give pretty good results if you have a live album or continuous mix.
But luckily you don't have to do any of this for HAB.
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 12:46 [#00522764]
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well the fucking thing happened again SHIT
THIS IS WHAT I GOT:
one track ends and the other starts, stops and then starts again...
this with every fucking track... another cd to the trash
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-21 12:46 [#00522765]
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I sincerely hope someone from Warp records is reading this plea ...
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 12:47 [#00522766]
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Actually, there is one program I know that can make a truely gapless cd from mp3's and wav files. Sonic Foundry's CD architect. It's ideal for continuos mix cd's. And you can even add track breaks in a single long mp3 if you want.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-01-21 12:48 [#00522768]
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god bless sonic foundry
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-21 12:48 [#00522769]
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yeah... rerelease it already! BoC is doing it with their rare ep's, why can't richard ;-)
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 12:48 [#00522770]
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Oh, and you can cut off as much of a track as you want with it. I'm sure you can dl it off soulseek to try it out.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-21 12:55 [#00522775]
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Yes, you're right - if you want to get your hands dirty and edit the mp3s. I'm thinking of the average person who just wants to burn 2 or more mp3s back to back on a cd.
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xceque
on 2003-01-21 12:56 [#00522776]
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Don't just burn the tracks with disc at once and no pregaps cos mp3s always have a bit of silence at the start after decoding so you'll get a pop or something a few seconds into the track even if you reposition the track indices. There are 256k mp3s that are better quality and that are done right. If you *really* want proper working 320k mp3s I can do you some.
(I sincerely hope no-one from Warp records is reading this plea ... ;)
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 13:02 [#00522779]
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please!
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-01-21 13:06 [#00522784]
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nacmat: i have the same 320kb/s mp3's u have. i used sound forge to cut off the beginning of the next song.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 13:24 [#00522800]
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If you find the 256kbs ones they are fine. I think I know where they came from...Eithor way they don't have that bit the next track at the end.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-01-21 13:33 [#00522812]
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use winoncd, it converts the mp3 to wav before and not during the process and you can edit it a little bit before, i've used it for cutting similar things out.
and it preserves you from encoding/reencoding
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xceque
on 2003-01-21 13:44 [#00522824]
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nacmat, do you use soulseek? what's your id?
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 13:46 [#00522827]
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nacmat
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xceque
on 2003-01-21 13:47 [#00522828]
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that's original! :D
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-01-21 13:57 [#00522832]
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Nacmat, primero transforma tus mp3 a wav, después con algún editor de audio quita los espacios en blanco (al principio y al final de cada wav) y en ese formato (wav) quemalos... NO los vayas a quemar mp3 porque como xeque dijo, siempre existira un pequeño espacio de silencio en los mp3. Es útil hacer lo mismo cuando quemas conciertos, etc.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 14:02 [#00522836]
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um
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-01-21 14:03 [#00522837]
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No abla espaniol
Thats almost right I think.
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 14:06 [#00522840]
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neto el problema no es el espacio entre los tracks, el problema es que al terminar por ejemplo track 5 pues empieza el 6 pero digamos que dentro del 5, luego 5 termina definitivamente y 6 vuelve a empezar... me entiendes?
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2003-01-21 18:07 [#00523168]
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Oh ya!... entiendo. Con un editor de audio puedes recortar la parte que esta de sobra adentro de dichos tracks. Recomiendo uses el Sound Forge, yo lo baje de Soulseek. Yo mismo tengo algunos archivos con el mismo defecto que los tuyos. Como quisiera que warp sacara una edición simple y barata en CD con ambos HAB a la "2 remixes by AFX"...
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 18:15 [#00523170]
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ya lo he grabado bien.... menos mal... gracias por todo.
saludos para mexico
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nacmat
on 2003-01-21 18:17 [#00523172]
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thanks a lot to everybody and specially to xceque
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-01-21 18:25 [#00523178]
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I got here late, can I still give everyone hi 5's?
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