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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-19 18:17 [#00520383]
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just saw it for the fourth time on BBC2 tonight..

man, the part where they kill Pauline's mother always fucks
me up. when they offer the mother the last piece of cake,
when they start walking down the path, my stomach turns
over.

and when they actually kill her..

such a great film. best Peter Jackson has done, imo.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-01-19 18:26 [#00520394]
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hehe, you really take films seriously dont you ;)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-01-19 18:27 [#00520395]
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well actually just saw a film that make ppl cry and laugh
so i guess it can touch you...


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-19 18:48 [#00520404]
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if a film is good, it hits me in the stomach, yeah.. :)

when its bad, it does nothing. which is sooooo awful.

which mysterious film are you talking about..?


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 04:28 [#00520831]
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yeah i didn't see it yesterday exactly for the reasons you
mention, qrter... have already seen it 3 times or so.
excellent film. i want to yell 'don't do it!!!' everytime
when they walk down that path in the woods.... really fucked
up


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 04:42 [#00520850]
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yes..

breaks your heart doesn't it..?

you feel for the girls - you've been a part of their
fantasies. but you also still really feel for the mother -
she can't help it. so in the end you opt for the mother,
ofcourse.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 04:44 [#00520855]
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wow that's exactly how i feel...

i did see snippets of the film last night in which i saw the
mother. pretty early on in the film. such sadness allready
when she meets her daughters friend... as if she already
knows it's the beginning of the end............


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 04:47 [#00520862]
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I didn't see it. My onscreen tv listing simply said "As
BBC2" and so I didn't know it was on. I watched 'Series 7 -
The Contenders' instead, then turned over to see another
person getting twatted to death. Quite a jolly evening all
round.

I would like to see this as it's the only Jackson film I've
never seen but the story doesn't really interest me much.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 04:51 [#00520866]
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you'll like it. + it has kate winslet nude, haha. right? or
was that another film? anyway, the story is compelling when
you're watching it. as qrter says, you get sucked into their
little fantasy world


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 04:51 [#00520867]
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you should see it.

its not so much about the story as in how he tells it. with
fervour, I would say.

beautifully acted too.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-20 05:40 [#00520911]
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yes the only jackson i didnt see yet
i really want to tho even if the story seems a little low


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 05:50 [#00520923]
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i love heavenly creatures. one of my fav films ever. i have
seen it tons of times. we always watched it with my
girlfriend, like several times a week :)

i love the part where they are in the bath and they talk
about eyes. awww.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 05:50 [#00520924]
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i love heavenly creatures. one of my fav films ever. i have
seen it tons of times. we always watched it with my
girlfriend, like several times a week :)

i love the part where they are in the bath and they talk
about eyes. awww.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 06:08 [#00520934]
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thinking about it, I guess I think its his best because it
combines his flair for visuals and great imagination (some
wonderful special fx scenes in there..) with a story that
has an interesting, quite deep psychological layer.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 06:40 [#00520955]
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I actually didnt really like Heavenly Creatures..maybe
because I read up on the case quite a bit..and the
caricature monster they made out of the mother was a gross
exageration..
Visually yes the movie is stunning and it has a lot of
merits..but...


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 06:41 [#00520957]
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oh yes, it was based on something that actually happened?


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 06:44 [#00520959]
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yes..it was a true and very tragic story...a bit of New
Zealand's own little Southern Gothic..


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:15 [#00520995]
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I loved Heavenly Creatures it was his first real accessible
main stream film but his first full length movie "Bad Taste"
is just so cool and really gory, as played by Peter Jackson
himself. The movie is about an alien invasion of a small
country town and the aliens wish to take humans away as food
to serve in their fast food restaurants. There is a scene
where Peter Jackson has fall down one of hills in and splits
his head open on a rock, half his brains fall out and he
goes around trying to shove his brains back into his head,
and somehow sheeps brains are included in the mix. Much of
Peter Jacksons movies are shot around my home town
Wellington and some of my old punk buddies were extras in
Braindead and they used one of our party houses for the
filming.

One of his short film that is great value if you can find it
is The Valley of the Stereos and all of the musicans here
would get a real kick out of it :)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 07:18 [#00520996]
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braindead kicks ass :)


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:20 [#00520998]
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:)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 07:21 [#00520999]
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ever looked it with double speed? that is what i call
experience :D


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 07:22 [#00521000]
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hahaha regarding your avatar, i'm just cooking tofu with
sweet and sour sauce :D


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:24 [#00521002]
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Ah no but pot is pretty interesting :)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 07:24 [#00521003]
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Bad Taste is shite, Braindead is cool.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:26 [#00521005]
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I found this badge at the ATM machine and I hate to admit I
hate tofu even though I am vegetarien :) mainly because I
dont know how to cook it.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:28 [#00521007]
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Its 0 budget - Z grade movie but it was a blast


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 07:34 [#00521013]
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i have no idea how to cook tofu either - this is my first
time. and i meant double speed vcr or other means of
playback speed doubling, not the drug speed :D


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 07:39 [#00521017]
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I'm aware it cost fuck all, I just don't like it


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:46 [#00521023]
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Red says..I was just kidding about speed but the VCR things
sounds like an interesting experiment:)..just like what flea
does to Jackie Chan..forwards and backwards and forwards and
backwards on all of his stunts:)

Red says..Jarworski..I know that Bad Taste is not for
everyone but I have sentimental attachment as I knows most
of the locations and a few of the people that are on there:)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 07:52 [#00521028]
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neetta says to red: want my tofu recipe? this is actually
good.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-01-20 07:55 [#00521030]
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yeah she does :)
I now have my correct email address on my profile:)..she is
offering a receipe of her own invention in return..with
cashews;)


 

offline loeser from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 09:00 [#00521126]
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The only Peter Jackson movie I (think) haven't seen yet is
'Forgotten Silver'. Heavenly creatures surely is one of his
better ones.
BTW for those who DID see Frighteners (another PJ movie
starring Michael J Fox): Don't you think the baddie in
Frighteners looks quite a lot like a ringwraith (LOTR)?


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-20 09:02 [#00521132]
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oh my god jarworski... bad taste is so cool, i find it way
better and funnier than braindead...
i still love your avatar tho... bill muray is the king


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-20 09:05 [#00521137]
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the frighteners is fucking awesome too
i love michael j fox and the bad cop guy, so psychotic! :D


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 09:56 [#00521241]
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I really disliked "the frighteners".

I found the fx kind of disappointing.

did like the FBI agent ofcourse.. :)

bad taste is pretty good - they showed it late late LATE one
night on BBC2 and then followed it with a short documentary
on how Jackson made it. he built his own dolly, pretty
impressive.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 10:04 [#00521266]
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I think I maybe don't like Bad Taste cause I had it rammed
down my throat by a Jackson fanboy. He insisted I buy it,
then watched it with me and laughed everytime the name
"Derrick" was mentioned, etc. I dunno, maybe if I hadn't
given the vid to fanboy straight after it ended I would have
given it another go ;)

The Frighteners was an alright film, bit all over the place
though really.

I still find it weird that Jackson was entrusted with making
LOTR. In fact, a lot of films are given to directors who
hardly seem suitable at the time. Luckily there have been a
few nice surprises (LOTR included).


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 10:10 [#00521273]
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well, Heavenly Creatures does show he can make quite a
well-structured film..


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-20 10:20 [#00521283]
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Yeah, but would you give him $300 million on the basis of
it? :D


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 10:21 [#00521284]
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yeah sure.. :P


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-01-20 10:56 [#00521328]
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this is one hellavah movie! i purchased the DVD the first
time i saw it, it was so inventive with the girls make
believe world, thats what stayed with me long after the
movie was over.

the fact that it's a true story and unbeknownst to me i have
read ann perry murder mystery novels. quite amazing that
after serving her time she's now quite a popular novelist!



 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-20 10:57 [#00521329]
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bad taste is dope
just wanna tell that again :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 11:09 [#00521339]
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mm.. found a site with all kinds of background info on
heavenly creatures..

come over and click me, baby..


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-01-20 11:13 [#00521343]
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the photos look so good...
i really need to see it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 11:15 [#00521346]
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the real pauline (left) and Juliet )right)..


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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 11:16 [#00521347]
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and here's Melanie Lynsky and Kate Winslett recreating that
photo... weird..


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offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-01-20 11:17 [#00521349]
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ohhhhh they look like i imagined. thanks for the site!!

coooooooolness


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 11:23 [#00521357]
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its all pretty weird..

that site is quite extensive..

do NOT read the post mortem.. its pretty gross..


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-01-20 11:31 [#00521371]
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thats the FIRST thing i read =0)

i was gonna be a doctah you know =0)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-20 11:36 [#00521376]
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oh yeah, thats true.. :)

have a read in the diary entries.. WOOW!!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-01-20 11:37 [#00521379]
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why 'was'? :o


 


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