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i had an idea lastnite. in a drunken state, i staggered into bed and couldnt sleep. i thought hey wait a minute....if an artist named all tracks "untitled" on an album... then had 10 different batches made, each one with the tracks in a different order, it would confuse people, since they couldnt refer to track 3 because that might be track 7 or 5 or anything on another cd from a different batch. this means havoc for file sharing. the filesizes would probably be the only way to identify the songs, but the use of differnt bitrates and encoders could cause differences. or the artist could master the tracks all to the same length, ie add a quiet 1khz tone to the end so they are all 8mins long say, then all the file sizes would be the same. and no one would be able to tell which is which. this would annoy loads of people and they wouldnt bother to download because it would be too much hassle. the only bad thing i could think of was that people could make up unofficial names for the tracks to bypass this 'system'. tell me what you think of this idea. |
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The songs would be named after date of release and track number. Next! |
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bah people would call the tracks "track 1", "track 2", etc... and would call the albums "lp1", "lp2", etc. or "album 1", "album 2", etc.... what would be more annoying would be a cd with a tracklisting like this: 1. track 4 2. track 5 3. track 1 4. track 2 5. track 3 6. track 7 7. track 6 :) |
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Another way would be to split the tracks up differently. Track one would actually end halfway into track 2, 2 in the middle of 3, etc. This would mean if you had the cd you'd have to play it from beginning to end everytime, or fast forward over the bits you don't like that much to get to your favourite tracks. The Mp3's would thus all be incomplete, and if you burned a cd-r of them there would be a 2 second gap in the middle of every song (I'm not sure if you can get rid of this though, I don't think you can with Nero). But then... this would piss off people who bought the cd, as well as the mp3 downloaders, and I don't think it would affect the hardcore piracy bods. The only way you'll ever stop it, ever, is to close the internet for good. |
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i think you misunderstand. here is an example batch 1: track1=song1 track2=song2 track3=song3 track4=song4 etc batch2: track1=song2 track2=song1 track3=song4 track4=song3 since there would be say 10 different lots of cds made at the same time it would be hard to relate track number to song |
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of course you can Jarworski :) i have iTunes and you can specify if you want seconds between the tracks or not (i usually don't put any gaps). you can also edit mp3s, with quicktime pro for example, quite easily... but you're right, not everyone will bother doing it. most people won't. |
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People would make up silly names like rhubarb and stone in focus. |
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I don't think people would care. As long as you get the songs, the titles don't matter. Hell, look at the last Sigur Ros album. |
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yeah, and if ALL tracks have the same durations (that's a bit far-fetched though!!) that would be annoying... :/ there would always be solutions (like encoding the whole cd as a single file) but that would be fucked indeed ^^ |
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yeah my idea has a few flaws, but hey i was drunk at the time:) has anyone else come up with any better ideas? |
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Put a thumbnail of the cover art in the same directory. They can't make all the covers the same, cause buying would be a crapshoot! |
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who'd do an album with all tracks with same durations? (ryoji ikeda? ^^;) |
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you can fill up the short tracks with white noise, silence, a nice repeat sample saying"i will not rip" "i will not encode", anything you want really. it can be quiet so you cant hear it, but would be encoded when people rip, unless they edit the wav first, but most people are too lazy. i think idm artists could do this, because they innovate a lot. |
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to stop filesharing record companies ought to create mp3 viruses. and good ones, too |
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Would it be legal for record companies to create viruses? Anyway I think filesharing could only be stopped by making it illegal and heavily punished. |
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Lol it is illegal! And if you get caught, i bet you'll get punished also. |
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Okay, you're right but at least in Estonia the laws against filesharing are not actually implemented, so far no one here has been punished for filesharing. So it's as good as being legal. |
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it is not illegal, at least not in austria (i'm not sure if it really is legal or if there only is no punishment, just like in the case of aborton; does not make an actual difference) |
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well "filesharing" on itself is indeed not illegal. It's only when you download copyrighted music without paying for it that things start to get illegal. But 99,9% of music that gets downloaded is probably copyrighted anyway :-p And i thought only in the netherlands things could be illegal and yet tolerated by the government? ;-) |
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But yeah... i think in the future recordcompanies will surely be putting many virusses disguised as popular songs on p2p-servers. And why not? ;-) It'd be illegal to download those popular songs, so technically speaking no-one would be allowed to download those virusses. I think that makes it legal for recordcompanies to do this. |
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Why would one want to stop filesharing !? Sharing is good, isnt it ?! |
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Isn't it illegal to make any kind of computer virus, no matter what it's supposed to be used for? |
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hm... interesting question! I don't know... if you don't spread it around... just keep it on your own computer? Would it then still be illegal? And since it's illegal to download copyrighted music, they can say: "well we didn't know people would be downloading our virusses... we disguised them as copyrighted songs, and people know they shouldn't download those... so it's really not our fault if they got infected by our virus..."... hm... i don't know anything about these things though. But maybe that would be a loophole in these laws? |
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YOU'LL NEVER TAKE US ALIIIIVEEE |
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I'm amazed ppl here are actually speaking in favor of the record companies. They have been extorting the world for long enough now, and now there's a way to avoid getting extorted and you are condemning it? |
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even if all p2p programs were shut down, it wouldn't stop filesharing. people would send each other cd-rs, like a modern tape trading board or something. |
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hm... right now i don't feel like having that discussion again ;-) I think my viewpoint is clear. And I always get angry and upset when i get into discussions with people who steal music so today i'm going to just ignore those posts ;-) serenity now... serenity now... |
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There's is no way to stop it, unless you shut down the internet like Jaworski said. |
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i think the most dangerous thing for p2p would be special cds, unreadable on computers/cannot be converted to mp3 and shared through p2p... of course, there will be people "cracking" the system, but not everyone will be able to crack it... |
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Surrounded, I think thing you described in your last post would still count as spreading the virus. |
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Quality music will be bought regardless of p2p or internet. If however there is a CD that has only 1 or 2 good songs on it, I sure as hell ain't gonna buy the entire CD for it |
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hm... well... you may be right :-) I'm by no means an expert on laws and computervirusses. Surely the industry will think of something though :-p I read an article on this quite recently, that compared the filesharing-situation now with the early days of radiobroadcasting. When recordcompanies were reacting in the same way... and eventually they worked out something there (now they get paid some $ whenever one of their songs gets played on the radio). |
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That's a good analogy. Maybe in the future it'll work so that fileshare programs force their users to watch a lot of ads, and the program makers pay some money they get from ads to record lables. |
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I CAN |
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cds unreadable on computers, "protected"... don't you fear they'll all be like this in the future? |
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make records cheaper, make better art for the record, release better music, this would increase sales in records so much that filesharing wouldn't be a problem. |
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file seizing |
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hummm |
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kill the cd !! make more vinyls !! and everyone will be happy ! |
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except the ones who haven't got vinyl players sadist... :) |
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It's ok to download music. We now know the high prices on CDs weren't from piracy, but from the price cartel the record companies were running. I bet they still are. -P |
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there's a cooler idea. the artist can go fuck his mother and it'll be a havoc for ehh i dunno, but it's almost the same thing as I see it |
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