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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-17 09:07 [#00517793]
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Many of us make music as a hobbie...I'm wodering; what's your approach?
Well, I do it very strangely...if I'm doing an Autechre-inspired "noisey" track, then I get a mic out and record anything I can (throwing stuff around, hitting spoons together,etc) and muck around with effects and stuff with those sounds. Then, I cut and past them so they form a ryhthmic texture, and add some normal synth backings (using my Juno, or Proteus.) Then, the piece developes from there.
If I'm doing a more "normal" track, then I simply compose the piece at the piano, then transfer the musical ideas to my pc and synths (and make a whole new set of sounds for each piece.)
What about you?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-17 09:22 [#00517808]
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I've recently taken to composing melodies in my head, then scoring them in pure midi as a piano to make sure I have the pitch & time etc. right then play about with softsynths to find something that fits.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-17 09:23 [#00517809]
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....?
Ahh c'mon. Reveal your creative ways, I'm interested..:)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-01-17 09:23 [#00517811]
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I try to recreate tracks I like. Most of the time they stay unfinished, or turn out to be total horse shit
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Tripewriter
from Tripewriter (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-17 09:24 [#00517813]
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PAH! 'tHe quiKslicErs' own your apparent ass. garbage can lead percussion, one ukelele, one fisher price 'my first fucked-up keyboard', and enough drugs to finish off even the 'Lightning League'!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-17 09:24 [#00517814]
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Sorry,Ceri JC. I typed that while you posted your post.
My softsynths don't work! Since I've got Win XP none of 'em have worked (I'm using CakeWalk Sonar)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-17 09:29 [#00517817]
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No probs mate- happens to me all the time :)
Strange, my softysnths all seem fine- mind you I'm running XP Pro, but even so I can't see why it'd be a problem. Try backing up your installation of sonar, reinstalling it and then pointing it back to the softsynth directory (I take it the softsynths are working as standalones?) Otherwise DL floops just to see if they work in that and help determine if the problem lies withing sonar or the softsynths.
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-01-17 09:31 [#00517819]
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i try to variate my ways of making music, my md is currently in for reparation right now but i use to record stuff from my surroundings and include them in trx.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-17 09:31 [#00517820]
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Sorry, I misstyped...They WORK, but there's a huge delay between when I play and when the sound comes out. They came with Sonar, and I'm on xp Pro and an Audidgy soundcard...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-17 09:42 [#00517842]
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FruityLoops. Almost every track I make I end up hating. Only a couple that I've made I genuinely like.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-01-17 09:43 [#00517845]
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old CoolEdit & Stomper Ultra ++
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-17 10:02 [#00517871]
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a nice way to work for me is to load a track of something, for example Andre Rieu's "Strauss Medley" (the last track I made), into SoundForge.
then I fuck around with effects and samplerates over the whole track. after a while I listen to the whole track and cut out the samples I like, which would work as loops.
then I go on and work more on those loops, etc. etc.
after a while I get an idea what I could do with all the samples I've acquired and I jump into Cubase, compose the track.
mostly I still use VST plug-ins in Cubase, edit a bit. sometimes I return repeatedly to SoundForge to edit, edit, edit!
:)
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nexialism
from out_of_reality (Svalbard And Jan Mayen Islands) on 2003-01-17 10:12 [#00517876]
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i think the most important fthing to do is to put yourself in the right state of mind. it's not hard to create music, but it's hard to enter "there">>>>Where?
Where you understand everything you hear and see. tHen It cOm:es na"t"uRal>>
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Portland
from San Diego (United States) on 2003-01-17 10:12 [#00517877]
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i use a couple of ensembles i made in reaktor to generate rythmic patterns both melodic and percussive.
from there i sample those and start to cut them up, reaarange them and toil with them more.
from there i have an idea of where i want the track to go so i start laying them down in my sequencer(s).
i always work on rythms first and then melodies and harmonies after that.
once i have the basic song structure i go about placing it in order and making tweaks etc.
from there i finalize and master.
if i like it then i keep it, if not, i rework it from the ground up. it takes a long time but it ensures i will get something i will like.
cheers.
:)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-17 10:12 [#00517878]
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Have you checked the latency settings? Even at the max I don't think they'd be over 300ms...
Does Audigy have ASIO drivers? Try using them and if they fail use the standard windows ones.
Turn off the autoreferencing feature in XP (can't remember where it is- I only did it once) that indexes the HD to speed up searches during idle time as that creates lag too.
Hope that helps.
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nexialism
from out_of_reality (Svalbard And Jan Mayen Islands) on 2003-01-17 10:25 [#00517887]
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you can virtually make music out of anything. even by sampling a zipper and then work it on fruity loops. that's one track.
next track is a simple sincere theme created on every keyboard you afford and like::::Ae:::::F.com:::::various second track
mix the two tracks::::use anyprogram you like::::even shityy onesssssstttt::: cut it out:::skratches::::third track
reverse it::::4th track now you can show me some skills and trips. speed up on []pusher or dream over boc. nevermind the rules. the limits are none
or are we gonna talk robotik all night long? i strongly bel;ieve that everything starts from virtuality::::::
tekfukin'nique just helps you. but you are free.....over all
have fun :)
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135633
from United Kingdom on 2003-01-17 10:28 [#00517889]
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everything you say/do has already been said/done and taken the piss out of.
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nexialism
from out_of_reality (Svalbard And Jan Mayen Islands) on 2003-01-17 10:36 [#00517899]
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welcome to fightclub :::::::Ae::::::::slave
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-01-17 11:37 [#00517941]
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I still suck at making tracks, but i really work at it, so i keep getting better.
I'm an acid pro freak. I do a lot of stuf in other programs, then i export loops and sounds, and put it into acid. Where I create these soundscapes (my music don't sound half as cool as the word).
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-01-17 12:03 [#00517953]
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i use keyboards and drum machines and fourtracks, oh my!
it's all in real time. i created this really hardcore beat andi don't know what to do with it.
i added a little of scratching from bobo off of venetian snares-songs about my cats
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-01-17 12:37 [#00517982]
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Roland 505 Dr 660
Cool edit Pro Fruity Loops My Wurlizter Piano Guitar (hardly) Reason Sonic Foundry Acid pro
to name a few. ;0
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-17 14:55 [#00518190]
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I make music with hardware and software, its fun
Yay!
Hurray!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-17 15:02 [#00518204]
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mm.. I think CS2x's question wasn't so much what do you use, but how..
"I'm wodering; what's your approach?"
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-17 15:30 [#00518253]
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WITH A BANJO OF COURSE! AND A BIG GLASS JUG QRTER!
I circut bent my banjo and fit on a ring mod and a midi controller, and the glass jug is set up to trigger my drum samples and has a custom fit reverb pod
Doesnt everyone do it this way?
O_O
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-01-17 15:35 [#00518260]
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I just am doing something, or I'm at work, or whatever, and all of a sudden I get an idea (thinking of it, mostly happens while I'm driving).
I try to get to my equipment as soon as possible and work on the idea.
Mostly its just a bassline and beats, and the rest evolves around it.
If you're curious just check here.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2003-01-17 16:56 [#00518370]
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a suprising lack of mac dudes here - here are my staples
G4 Laptop Digital Performer 3.11 (software sequencer + hundreds of plug-ins)
Recycle (sample retriever) Battery (software sampler) Abelton Live (live stuff and sometimes sequencing) Nord Lead 1 (hardware synth) Boss 202 (for the occasional drum sample) Tech 1200 (vinyl sampling)
This is really all i need - i've got recycle to pull samples out of audio files, i've got battery to organize and treat them, i've got DP to arrange them with any midi data i may have, then ableton live allows for it all to be played in a live setting without just hitting play on a sequencer. i'm pretty confident 'the big boys' set-ups aren't drastically different then this. they may just have more expensive, self-modified and/or a higher quantity of tools that do the similar task.
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