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accela
from Detroit (United States) on 2002-12-25 03:00 [#00490771]
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masterpiece? or disapointment? I am curious what Stanley Kubrick fans on this messageboard thought of the film.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-12-25 03:02 [#00490772]
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You get up on a christmas morning to ask this?
Sorry not being able to cpomment, I haven't seen the film.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 04:02 [#00490784]
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Personally I consider it a masterpiece, but there are lots on this board who don't (I asked the same question a few months ago)... I think it's either misunderstood or not understood enough by most people who doubt its amazingness.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-25 04:09 [#00490788]
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watching that film, you could tell that kubrick was a complete perfectionist - i don't think theres anyone around today who would put so much sweat into getting each shot _exactly_ right. An absolutely joy to look at, even if it is too long, has a shit plot, etc.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-12-25 04:16 [#00490791]
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i liked it
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2002-12-25 04:59 [#00490806]
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Me too.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 05:30 [#00490810]
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i think its a really bad movie...
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-25 06:16 [#00490829]
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I think, like all kubrick's films em a masterpiece.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 06:27 [#00490830]
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i think everything from kubrick except that one are masterpiecies
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-12-25 06:56 [#00490837]
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I like it , its a very entertaining movie visual wise. The plot is tricky ,like all Kubrick movies hard to desifer the inner story without reading an experts essay.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-12-25 08:16 [#00490852]
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it's a beautiful piece of filmmaking
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-25 08:20 [#00490855]
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Wonderful plot, very noir and headfucking. It had mystery at its core, wrapped in fear and desire.
Visually the movie was a bag of the finest Hallowe'en candy I've ever had the honor to gorge myself on.
The moments of humor were well placed too, like the way the good doctor brandished his Wallet of Power with its doctor's license like a detective's badge, and the way he was always ostentatiously paying for things.
Masterpiece, absolutely.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-12-25 08:25 [#00490857]
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there was nekkid girlies inniit a huh huh huh
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 08:31 [#00490859]
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i dont see the genius in it thats all i can say... very poor scenario, and in fact i dont like the principal actors...
i just certainly dont care enough about rich people's orgies, or maybe love stories in general...
but i think that in the kind of sexual insanity and paranoïa, "society" from brian yuzna is way better
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-25 08:33 [#00490860]
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i dident like it one bit. i liked the naked bits but thats it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-25 08:35 [#00490862]
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i have to say thou, my dislike for the film comes out of being disapointed with the plot. not so much the visual aspect.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2002-12-25 08:35 [#00490863]
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i kinda liked how tom cruise was called a fag. i mean, when do you see tom cruise in a movie where he's not everyone's favorite lovable clown?
he totally needed to be taken down a pizeg, YALL
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-25 08:38 [#00490865]
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and it is a verry scarry film. the idea of lust drraging you in to deep. something that you can't underrstand orr fight, getting out of yourr depth. so in a sence actually i think it was quite good. still i think it needed morre of an ending lets say, coz thinking about it it did have a plot, but not a climax.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-25 08:38 [#00490866]
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hey i like this film. its good
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 08:43 [#00490870]
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kind of........... but again anus, you need to watch "society" and youll understand what fearf of the lust means...
:)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 08:43 [#00490871]
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fearf = fear
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-12-25 08:44 [#00490872]
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i have only seen it once and can't rrememberr alot of it. so what i said above is all of memorry. i might pick it up again.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-25 08:49 [#00490873]
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An acquired taste, more likely to appeal to die-hard Kubrickians than anyone else.
The orgy sequence are some of the most magnificent minutes in the history of cinema, unless of course you saw the film in the US where it was digitally mauled.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 08:54 [#00490874]
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i thought those scenes were stupids and empty... and i saw the european version....i cant see how they could have cut it !
i felt the sadness of the sex parts through the screen... seriously i hope rich people have more fun than that
(mmmh i have some doubts in fact :)
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-25 09:00 [#00490879]
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It wasn't cut, various bits of body were digitally obscured with fake vases etc.
The scene appealed to me because it was fine art.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 09:17 [#00490884]
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"It wasn't cut, various bits of body were digitally obscured
with fake vases etc. "
shit scary thats like in the sci-fi novel "remake", where the guy has to delete alcohol bottles and cigarettes from old movies to remake them... i dindnt know the existence of that process for real...
shit 2003 i feel you coming..... like a crawling bitch ;)
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ISayNothing
from Mt. Pus (Sweden) on 2002-12-25 14:46 [#00491052]
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I really like the music that plays in the sex-party-or-what-the-hell-it-is-scene. and the masks, wow they'r awsome!
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catzscan
from between heaven and LV (United States) on 2002-12-25 15:48 [#00491152]
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here's how you know a movie is bad... you go to opening night with a line going out of the theater with kubrick fans and during the movie, people are talking on their cell phones, snoring or yelling, "THIS SUCKS!" at the screen.
i was one of the snorers.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 15:50 [#00491153]
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That's a shallow and ignorant way to judge a movie--people ignorant enough to use their cellphone during the screening of a movie aren't that likely to have opinions worth much attention.
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catzscan
from between heaven and LV (United States) on 2002-12-25 15:54 [#00491156]
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the point is that hard-core kubrick fans were bored out of their minds... people don't use their cell phones during movies if they are at all interested in what's happening onscreen.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 15:57 [#00491157]
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So it's Okay to disrupt other people's viewing because a person considers themselves a hardcore Kubrick afficianado? I know plenty of big Kubrick fans who consider this film a masterpiece, and there are numerous lengthy articles online detailing why they consider it to be so.
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boxrocket
from mine (United States) on 2002-12-25 16:40 [#00491169]
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i thought this movie was brilliant...a good film is like a good song-it makes you really feel, often without really knowing why. this flick invoked perfectly the feelings one goes through when you're in love and you find out the object of your love hasn't always cared like you thought they did. i could talk forever about all the little shit in it but i'm not going to be rude....
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catzscan
from between heaven and LV (United States) on 2002-12-25 16:46 [#00491170]
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marlowe, chill... i didn't say it was Okay, I said it was an indication...
sheesh.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 16:51 [#00491171]
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what you say is quite stupid catzscan... even if i didnt like the film... are you really yelling this sucks in the theater ? :/
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 16:52 [#00491172]
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i was just laughing seeing it, im never disapointed... i felt sorry for kubrick...what a worse last movie could he have done than this one?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 17:14 [#00491186]
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well it was your reasoning in the first place that rankled: just because some ignorant pricks didn't like it, and decided to make that known thru ignorant means, then you reasoned that's a way to know if a movie is bad...
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nacmat
on 2002-12-25 17:25 [#00491188]
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humanoid must not scape
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accela
from Detroit (United States) on 2002-12-25 17:50 [#00491193]
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marlowe i agree with you...i thought the film was a masterpiece. it is very misunderstood by many people like catzscan and the ignorant people in the theater.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 17:57 [#00491198]
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hey I know I'm gonna like you >:)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 18:42 [#00491225]
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lmao all right cos you like the same film... *passes through*
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 18:45 [#00491227]
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sorry, I'll be more hostile with people who pleasantly agree with me in future. My sincerest of apologies.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-12-25 19:33 [#00491252]
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what i said was shitty forgive me ;D
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-25 19:44 [#00491255]
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I hereby grandly forgive you <:)
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catzscan
from between heaven and LV (United States) on 2002-12-25 22:36 [#00491285]
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did I really yell 'this sucks' at the screen? uh, no. that's not what i wrote.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-03-20 17:51 [#01111619]
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i just saw it...not to impressed...plenty of nice scenes, unfortunately i don't like cruise & kidman, and well, since it was kind of thriller i was expecting a different end which was totally disapointing - i don't mind such ends, but since the whole film had something mysterious i expected something different for and end.
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-20 18:09 [#01111635]
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great film.
kubrick deals with human nature so well. and he's untouchable in his mastery of the technical aspects of cinematography. he's a film god.
fuck him for dying!
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zero-cool
on 2004-03-21 05:32 [#01111934]
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tralier
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