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offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2002-11-12 21:50 [#00439689]
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Go easy on her when introducing AFX to her... Pick an easy
song, like window licker... That'll put the taste in her
mouth for sure!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-12 21:55 [#00439699]
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don't you guys see the correlation between you
giving/sending these girls these music and their liking it?
you'd be safe if she already liked it. it doesn't mean
anything if she's introduced to it to you and immediately
says she likes it. check back with her in a few months to
see which cd's she's bought.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-11-12 21:57 [#00439705]
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you know what else will put a nice taste in her
..............

OK, that crossed many boundries.......


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-12 21:58 [#00439708]
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tits .. bound to be a bit of both though right? A very
intimate form of marketing if you like?


 

offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2002-11-12 22:00 [#00439710]
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AAgh! I didn't mean it that way... At least not literaly!
:)
Twistin my words like that, you ought to be a lawyer or
something


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-12 22:02 [#00439713]
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just a dose of harsh reality a lot of people on this board
don't want to hear. i think more often than not that's the
girl's way of saying the music isn't "bad" (ie: it's
bearable) but more importantly she wants to tell the guy
that she accepts his musical taste and that it wouldn't be a
burden in their friendship or romance.

of course, occasionally girls really DO get hooked on idm.
that's why i said, time will tell...


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2002-11-12 22:03 [#00439714]
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yeah, sorry about that

me = shutting up


 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-11-12 22:04 [#00439717]
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I agree tits. Girls you introduce to this type of stuff
won't like it 95% of the time. I try not to expose them to
it at all because it's bound to happen. Not tosay their bad
people, it's just IDM is fundamentally something that prolly
won't be liked immediately. My couson and I played some
mouse on mars for our friend one time and she was like 'ooh
I like it! I like that drop noise!' so she listened to it a
bunch of times. It could happen though. I have this other
friend who played Drukqs for some of these girls at his
school and he said one of them loved it and asked to borrow
it and wrote poems or pictures or something to every track!
So, I'm not really sure. But then, he loves to give
unneeded exposure to bands I like almost just to frustrate
me. Like playing Geogaddi before a church youth thing and
Drukqs in athletics class during workout.. arg! :)


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-12 22:06 [#00439721]
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tits .. totally agreed .. same with guys and other stuff -
like fashion.


 

offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2002-11-12 22:06 [#00439723]
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Poems??
That's a new one to me!


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-12 22:08 [#00439728]
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... or the classic "do i look fat"


 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-11-12 22:08 [#00439729]
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hehe actually to be fair, I think it was pictures.. but
still, to every track and actually liking it? hmm


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2002-11-12 22:27 [#00439760]
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Always ease them in with Windowlicker... Every girl I've
showed it to so far loves it. I
DM (how i hate that term) takes patience and time to
"like".... no matter how much you want to show this girl the
treasures that are Confield and Gantz Graf... DONT DO IT,
they arent ready! And many sadly never will be :(


 

offline Delphium from Rauma (Finland) on 2002-11-12 23:53 [#00439815]
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My g/f never heard Aphex Twin before cos' she mostly listens
to bands like Korn,Nightwish,Garbage,Portishead,DJ Shadow
and such...so i let her down easy and played "Digeridoo" at
first, then moved on to "On" and "SAW 85-92". And now she
likes it almost as much as i do...next i'll throw some
Squarepusher on her way.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-13 00:40 [#00439852]
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that's an exception to the rule.. if she already likes
electronic-y stuff like dj shadow, portishead, and garbage
(hell, even korn's most recent albums have been
electronic-y) then it's quite sensible to introduce them to
idm. :) what squarepusher are you going to play for her? i
recommend feed me weird things or perhaps even better for
her (as a trip-hop fan), music is rotted one note.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-13 00:55 [#00439871]
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start a person off with sp with FMWT for sure...

isn't that SP's first album anyway?


 

offline Delphium from Rauma (Finland) on 2002-11-13 03:53 [#00439948]
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Ya, you have a point there!

I thought i'd start with "Do you know Squarepusher"


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-13 04:57 [#00439995]
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HA, well where do you start with a gf who's only into
sinatra and buena vista social club ?!!!


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 05:15 [#00440006]
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I agree with tits worth. Alot of times tehy say they like it
just because they're need to be liked by you is more
important then their real opinion on it.

Try jazzanova or vsnares tony =\

=D


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-13 05:16 [#00440007]
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IDM = Girl Trouble maybe?


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-13 05:20 [#00440012]
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Iroel: lol that would be funny! I was thinking of showing
her Gantz Graf for a laugh!
C728: eh?


 

offline Dreamer from Malmo (Sweden) on 2002-11-13 05:27 [#00440018]
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I have it the other way around - can´t meet boyz within
this genre....
Or, actually I find it difficult to meet people at all who
listens to this kind of music.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 05:43 [#00440033]
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"otherwise it'd be too much like goin out
with a female version of yourself, or something."

I would love to go out with a female verison of
myself. It'd be so conveniant.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-13 05:45 [#00440036]
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Damn right. Clone yourself and just flip one chromosome et
voila. Of course she would have to have an identical
background/experiences in order to still be you...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-11-13 06:00 [#00440060]
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Yes, I suppose that'd be sort of a twin...

To be exactly the same she'd need the same
experiences, but it's suprising how much is in your genes.
It'd be cool to clone yourself at the age you were and just
flip the chromosome (wait, wouldn't only women be able to do
this as they could destroy the female chromosome in their
clone and therefore become male?). Mind you, if they had
your memories etc. they'd probably be gay, unless you were,
then they'd be straight...

Okay, so, you'd need to be a gay woman and make an exact
clone of yourself for it to work. Back to the drawing
board...

Anyone see the red dwarf episode where Rimmer tried this?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-13 06:07 [#00440067]
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there's the holandric region on the Y chromosome (ie stuff
that ain't on the X) ...

dunno i think it'd kinda freak me out, having an XX clone of
meself ..


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 11:24 [#00440474]
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Got a sister Ceri?

You'll have 1 probability on 3 to get an exact clone of your
X chromosome, that later you can bring up as a little female
version fo yourself...

Umh look it's oedipus king all over again....

=D

Maybe I'll write a book on that ¬_¬

mmmmhhh.....


 

offline quantazelle from chicago (United States) on 2002-11-13 11:44 [#00440500]
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hehe... shameless plug.. i feel obligated:

http://www.quantazelle.com/


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 11:50 [#00440504]
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Awesome stuff quant...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-13 12:04 [#00440514]
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i don't know many girrls that like IDM, if they did i would
use my knowledge to entice them into my sleazy world...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 12:29 [#00440536]
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this thread is insane! :-p
It's almost like you're all saying girls are "incomplete"
until they start listening to IDM. It's so incredibly
shallow to think of a plan for making her like the same
music as you :-/

My horoscope once told me: "your idea of what love is, is
based on what you've seen in romantic movies"... Alot of
people have an idea in their head about what their
relationships should be like, and then they try to find the
right person to fit into that fantasy.

I say just live your life and be happy, eventually you will
meet a girl who likes you for what you are (because you are
just doing what you want, not hunting for relationships),
and if all goes well a relationship will develop. It might
be entirely different from what you expected it to be... but
that doesn't matter :-)

Maybe your girlfriend will someday teach you to like other
music besides IDM... maybe she will make you love Sinatra's
music :-p Who knows? No-one ever said IDM was the best music
in the world... just with all the music i've heard, I really
like it. Doesn't mean everybody else has to aswell...


 

offline warpphex from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-13 12:49 [#00440547]
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my girlfriend hates idm .
when i played her squarepusher she thought my decks were
broke! i love her but im dreading the day she moves in and i
can no longer play gantz graph on full volume . she loves r
and b, kelly and nelly, that music is dump! youve got to
addmit it!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 13:16 [#00440579]
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Maybe you could create a room for yourself (like also put
the computer there, and call it the "computer-room")... make
sure the room has a good door that can close properly... and
then you can still listen to all your favorite music without
her going crazy from the noise ;-)

Well ofcourse it doesn't always work, i imagine you'll also
be spending alot of time together, lol. But still...
there'll still be plenty of hours where you can play what
you like.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-13 13:37 [#00440590]
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not only is idm not the best music in the world, it's one of
the worst -- boring, pointless, and cold.


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-13 13:40 [#00440593]
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WHAT?!?!?!

heh


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 16:34 [#00440621]
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Surrounded:
Normal relationships are boring.

I would rather stay single than going through one of those
again =\


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-13 16:35 [#00440624]
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ive noticed that girls who like idm are pretty nice in
general...
full of charm and culture
like us all
we'll all have our idm girl soon
;)



 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-11-13 16:38 [#00440625]
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dreamer kinda has a point there


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-13 16:39 [#00440627]
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of course we see it that way. but i was putting myself in
someone else's shoes. the bottomline is it's not very
"listenable" so it must suck.


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 16:40 [#00440633]
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I broke the board =(



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 16:54 [#00440663]
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what is a "normal" relationship?!?

Wait no, let me put it this way: what kind of relationship
are you searching for then?

And titsworth... you're confusing me :-p Your last two posts
are almost the complete opposite of everything i thought i
knew about your taste in music, lol


 

offline Iroel from Pisa (Italy) on 2002-11-13 17:01 [#00440677]
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"what is a "normal" relationship?!? "

is the relationship that I will obtain by following your
advices =D


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-13 17:01 [#00440678]
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surrounded .. re: the horoscope thing. there's quite
a bit of truth in that - you learn what it is to be in love
(from television, books etc.)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-13 17:03 [#00440683]
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george, i'm just playing devil's advocate here. it's not how
i feel but i could easily see how someone could think that.
compared to other types of music it (eg: central and south
american native music) IS boring, pointless, cold, and
downright unlistenable. there are exceptions (some afx, some
boc) but for the most part, we as idm fans are conditioned
into finding the inner beauty of the music.

to clarify, i don't actually judge anything based on what
other people (especially "The Majority") believe, i just
wanted to throw that opinion out there in context of why you
can't expect to find or seek out girls who like idm. they
exist, but 1) they're rare, and 2) their taste in music
shouldn't be something that influences your heart. it's a
bonus, not a requirement.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 17:08 [#00440702]
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(bloody hell! I'm beginning to see what tunemx meant...it
will ruin the order of the topics and messages
... this
is annoying! And confusing!).

And don't follow my advice iroel :-p lol, it hasn't worked
for me at all yet! But i'm still curious what kind of a
relationship you're searching for then? I still believe it's
the wrong order to first make a "checklist" of what you want
in a girl, and then go searching for one that matches it...
as i see it that can only lead to dissapointment and
frustration :-/


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-13 17:11 [#00440711]
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She has. I have learnt to appreciate Sinatra and I've alway
enjoyed jazz singers such as Nat King Cole.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-11-13 17:13 [#00440715]
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what is happening with that topic???
is it sick?
:)



 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-11-13 17:13 [#00440717]
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to play the devils advocate again - er.. if that's
possible.

but i don't think there really are objective elements in
music (ie. the appreciation side of things) .. culturally
bound me tends to think, you see it through your cultural
window.

yeah this time thing is quite


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 17:16 [#00440728]
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oh okay, in that case i actually agree with you! The
political correct part of me is just itching to protest
against the theory that most girls don't like idm...
;-)hehe... but one need only take a quick look at the
members-list of this mb to see that it's actually a fact
that idm is mostly listened to by males... weird.

I can pretty much see what you're saying... what your
average listener might think of this type of music. But it
puzzles me why there aren't an equal amount of males and
females who can enjoy it.

"2) their taste in music shouldn't be something that
influences your heart. it's a bonus, not a
requirement."


Yes :-) Exactly! That's what bothered me about this
thread... there's just something wrong about specifically
searching for someone who likes idm. (or trying to convert
them).



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-13 17:21 [#00440744]
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excellent! :-D

Personally i would find this much more interesting... a girl
that tries to teach me new things. Not a girl that i
want to change to suit me better.

Yeah, i i think that's really cool mr. fish! Ever since i've
read a review about one of sinatra's albums that said: "and
believe me dear reader, there will come a time in your life
when this is the only album in the whole world that can help
you"... i've been intruiged by him. But still haven't gotten
around to actually giving him a listen... will do, someday
:-)



 


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