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wow, this movie looks badass kinda remiinds me of Sphere though... but it still looks badass |
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looks cool although I've never been a big Clooney fan. He just has a strange look to him. |
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sodenberg = crap. The only half-decent thing he's done is Traffic. |
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have you seen the newest trailers? WTF are they trying to pull off, makes it look like Titanic 2: Lost in Space --------- the first trailers blew my mind though, will see it either way....... |
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and when the fuck is someone going to make a film out of Philip K Dick's "A Scanner Darkly?". I heard Terry Gilliam was considering it but there was some copyright issue. grrrr... |
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chris cunningham was going to. i think he spent a year working on a script then decided not to do it at all. |
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That does look rather cool... a bit startrek-ish, but still cool! i'd like to see that one. I can't watch trailers seriously anymore though... not since the seinfeld-trailer. I wonder what these recordings went like? "whatever you want" "no 'whatever you want' jack..." "oh? what do you mean?" "it's not that kind of movie" "oh, ok... whatever you need..." "no 'need' either" "whatever you desire..." |
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Didn't Soderbergh do Kafka? That was fun. I'm a sucker for anything with Jeremy Irons. I can't wait till Dick goes out of fashion so they stop butchering his work. Hey, get Spielberg to produce it. That'll be another class act. |
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soderberg = NOT crap. see --> "The Limey" |
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I thought this was going to be about Photek's Solaris cd... |
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haha ditto. Although the only Trailer I saw to 'Solaris' was just a Space Station like structure. Then it flashed SOLARIS. |
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Clooney has a strange look to him? Damn, I wish I was strange like that... |
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that was the GOOD trailer, the new ones are terrible |
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Is that a remake of the Russian Sc-Fi film "Solaris" ? |
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I thought this topic was about the Photek CD. Boy was I way off. |
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I take back the 'crap' comment. I had forgotten that he did: - The Limey (damn good) - Kafka (heard a lot of good about it) and Erin Brokovich was pretty good. I was quite pleased with Minority report actually. I thought that speilberg was going to totally wreak it. Ok so it got annoyingly sentimental (speilberg sentimentality - see AI .. in fact DON'T) at times and the plot was deformed so as to make for more action scenes etc etc. But overall I thought it was a reasonably good adaptation. On second thought I don't want anyone to make "A Scanner Darkly" as it's my favorite work of his (from the subset that I have read) and it wouldn't live up to the images in my mind. However if anyone was to make it, it would have to be Gilliam or Cunningham. No-one else. |
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or maybe Darren Aronofsky |
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You know, so many people liked Minority Report I wonder if I was in the wrong theater. Lots of critics liked it, the audiences liked it, I dunno. The problem with Spielberg is he has two modes: serious, and High Lord Cheese. When he decides not to take something too seriously, it's like he can't be bothered wiping his ass. He goes for the cheap shots. And I really didn't appreciate the way he ripped off the "eye" motif from Ridley Scott's Blade Runner, considering how little he did with it and how deeply thought out it was in Blade Runner. And there were holes in the plot large enough to vomit through; but why should he bother, right? It's just one of them "sci fi" flicks, not one of his Oscar shortlist whore flicks. Kubrick could have done something interesting with A Scanner Darkly, I think. Then again he was such a big old Kubrick, wasn't he? Cronenberg was my next choice but he has too many of his own obsessions. Whoever takes it on has to have a boundless imagination and an incredible feel for period. I think you're right about Gilliam. |
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i thought this was gonna be a photek topic. |
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interesting points there. Nothing compares to blade runner (re-released on DVD *must buuuuyyyy*). I think Gilliam could pull it off. I'm not too sure about Kubrick. I hated Eye Wide Shut (although the mise-en-scene was good) and I don't buy into all that "If he had finished editing it, it would have been incredible" bullshit. |
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and of course there's the small matter that the guy's dead... |
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Saw a trailer for this when I went to see Minority 'laughable' Report. I loved the Tarkovsky original, so I shall probably go to see it. *If* they do a decent job with it, it'll be worthwhile, though er-makes of good films almost always turn out piss-poor. I can't think of a single one that improved on the original. Anyone? |
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The original has to be a high water mark of some sort or else they wouldn't bother. I am excluding movies based on TV series and cartoons here... although in most of those cases the original is also better. I mean, how fucking sad is it that Lost in Space was worse than the TV show? |
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I hated Eyes Wide Shut :-( |
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ok 'hate' is a little strong but it didn't do anything for me apart from the way it was filmed and those venetian masks! |
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For movies that improved on the original - I preferred the Sci-Fi channel remake of Dune to Lynch's version (though that's highly subjective) and I think the 70s remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" is better than the 50s original. In general you're right: these remakes are usually total duds. |
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i, personally, am so sick of the "oooh, when you get to space creepy things happen" movies. why don't they all become enlightened or something? "you're being manipulated!" i guess i'm just done with scary movies, cause they don't scare me anymore, and i have no desire to be scared. |
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i couldn't really get into wither of the dune movies... usually the case when you read the book first. |
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wither = either |
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Ocean's Eleven and Heat were better than the originals. |
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Red Dragon and Cape Fear too. |
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Oceans 11 was a remake? |
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I thought it was gonna be a unix/sun one... :s Xceque- Yes, as was the thomas crown affair. |
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YES! originally done by the Rat Pack. |
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Heat was a remake ???? |
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well Zeus, i have to thank you for reccommending this movie. i finally got to see it and DAMN, it owned.. and like you said the soundtrack kicked ass as well.. thanks again and everyone check this movie out. |
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heat was a remake of "LA Takedown" both versions were directed by Michael Mann |
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i finally managed to see the new solaris. it was alright, visually gorgeous at points (sometimes it looked too much like a cliche contemporary american sci fi movie, the sets and lighting and whatnot) i still liked the original better, i think. and i dont think either really did the book justice. |
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great movie and great soundtrack! |
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Incredible movie, I've still only seen the first half though, and I'm still hunting down the Russian version, subtitled so I can understand it. Great soundtrack. Nice visual feast for the eyes the new Solaris is though... man. Gorgeously filmed, and George Clooney. |
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the soundtrack is indeed gorgeous. has cliff martinez done anything else? the name sounds familiar for some reason.. |
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jupitah: in response to the post you made nearly a year ago.. it isnt a scary movie (event horizon kinda stole solaris' premise and made one already) its actually a love story more than anything, with some existentialism thrown in for good measure. |
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Have you watched the earlier 'Solaris' by Andrei Starkowski? Now that is a great scifi. |
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solaris soundtrack seems SAWII meet ASTROBOTNIA |
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he did "traffic"s soundtrack. also ambient. |
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Saw this on DVD cheap in HMV so I though i might as well give it a chance and boy am I glad I did! Just finnished watching it and i'm still tying to take it all in. I didn't think hollywood made films like these anymore. The soundtrack was awesome too, think i'll have to order it. |
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you could say that Soderbergh remade Tarkovsky's film... but really it'd be better to say he did another (different) film rendering of Stanislaw Lem's novel Solaris... Lem didn't particularly fancy Tarkovsky's version of his film, and judging by their disparate attitudes i can see why... but i don't give a fuck because Andrei Tarkovsky is a film god (my absolute favourite film director of all time), and his version is as good as anything he did in his career (though, there are several films of his which i prefer over this one)... the Soderbergh version is decent, but very very different from tarkovsky's (for one, it's half as long)... ultimately a relatively minor work in the career of a man who can't seem to decide whether he wants to be a respectable filmmaker or a crap one (Ocean's 12 will probably be coming out later this year... so things are looking pretty grim)... |
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by "respectable" or "crap", you mean pretentious or commercial. personally, i admire someone who can balance movies like traffic and solaris with oceans 11 and erin brokovitch. |
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no i don't think that appealing to a small educated, well versed in film audience makes you pretentious... people shouldn't dumb down their artistic aspirations so that they can appeal to a larger audience, that's how art stagnates... that's how we never get to experience the beauty of the countless artists who have come and gone, barely scraping by during their lifetime only to have their works appreciated by future generations for years to come (as well as to assist in the evolution of new talented artists)... that's not to say that i don't respect the decision of filmmakers to consciously aim to reach a larger audience... in fact a director like Orson Welles, whose works were always intended to have mass appeal, was also one of the finest directors of all time (to us "pretentious"' types)... i find your film choices interesting, because i don't see how any of those films are any more high-brow or accessible than any of the others, they all simply appeal to slightly different segments of the population... alls i know is there is a forthcoming sequel of ocean's 11 which seems to me to be nothing more than a rehash of the old story with the added "bonus" of fitting Roberts into more scenes as she is now part of the crew... Ocean's 11 was tolerable...in fact even more than that: slick... fun... but i'd rather just watch it again, then witness it turn into unmotivated, and formulaic... there are plenty of untalented hacks who can pull of this kind of entertainment that we don't need a talented director to waste precious years of his career doing it as well |
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pretentious may have been the wrong word, but my choices illustrate an obvious divide in his intent. solaris and oceans eleven are totally different movies, one is "art" and the other is "entertainment". i believe solaris is a far superior film to oceans eleven, but the fact that he made an entertaining popcorn movie and then made solaris is interesting to me. i'd like to see other directors do this more often. given, some of his movies have been a total waste of time (full frontal??), but i don't mind seeing a varied career coming out of a director. if i want someone who does movies that constantly raise the stakes of modern moviemaking while appealing to a mass audience, i'll go with spike jonze or wes anderson or the coen brothers. ultimately, if the man wants to make pure surface entertainment and deeper films, let him be. |
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