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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:17 [#00432427]
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Jinkies Zeus it was just a silly troll. Sorry if I ruffled  anyone's feathers. 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:19 [#00432429]
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Ah yes, Pascal's Wager. But how do you know you're choosing  the right God? You could end up in some other religion's  hell. 
 
  
         
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           princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-07 19:21 [#00432430]
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JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  
         
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           BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-07 19:22 [#00432433]
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I specified a God? I said "Jesus" just for an association to  make so people would get what I meant.
 
  I'm basically playing it safe. I believe there is  "something", rather than just being a retard headed for  hell. Seems safer to me to have faith and be wrong than it  would to not have faith and be wrong 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:27 [#00432435]
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Hey, what if the Hare Krishnas are right and you get  reincarnated as a slug? 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 19:30 [#00432438]
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I don't see why someone feels the need to post a sarcastic  thread basically making fun of a particular religion...  fucking grow up...  
 
  
         
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           princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-07 19:31 [#00432441]
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"I don't know how to love him"
  Show Jesus you love him by giving Benny Hinn your credit  card. 
 
  
         
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           BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-07 19:33 [#00432443]
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why do you care so much?
  you're an atheist (apparently), it shouldn't matter to you  what someone else has chosen to believe.
 
  you'd have to believe in a god in the first place in order  to denounce the idea or contradict the belief. the reason  can't exist without the idea. it's circular logic basically.  if you say "there is no god", then obviously at the very  least the word exists in your mind, which technically means  you believe the term 'god' exists just enough to say you  don't believe in god... confusing huh?
 
  that's why it sucks to be an atheist and/or moron...
  also, you have no one to scream out to during sex
 
  
         
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           princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-07 19:35 [#00432444]
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yes, YES!! OH JESUS,GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:36 [#00432445]
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I actually read that as Benny Hill for a minute.... can you  picture Benny running around healing people in sped-up  motion with that theme music playing?  
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:37 [#00432447]
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I scream "BILE!" during sex.
  So what you're saying is, because I have the concept of  Santa Claus, therefore he exists?
 
  I better get some fine gifts this Christmas.
 
  
         
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           BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-07 19:41 [#00432450]
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again, why do you care?
  just go be bitter and keep your opinion all ya want, you  won't change the world or anyone else just because you don't  happen to agree 
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-11-07 19:41 [#00432451]
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Bill Hicks on Christians that wear crosses around their  necks: "You think when Jesus comes back he's ever gonna want  to see a fucking cross again?"
 
 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:41 [#00432452]
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Of course as a Newfoundlander you have a unique experience  of Christianity... one might say the Brothers have "drilled  it into you". 
 
  
         
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           weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-11-07 19:41 [#00432453]
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www.christianburner.com
 
  
         
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           BILE
             from São Paulo (Brazil) on 2002-11-07 19:42 [#00432454]
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but if you want to go at a psychological aspect, then yes:  if a person sincerely believes Santa exists, then to them he  does. it might not be the same for anyone else, but in their  mind it's true, therefor technically, it is. 
 
  
         
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           JivverDicker
             from my house on 2002-11-07 19:45 [#00432458]
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just be 'nice' fleet. most gods are down with niceness.
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:46 [#00432459]
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I have the mental image of Santa travelling on a sex tour of  Thailand, getting out of that hot red felt suit and gittin'  all greased up and rolling in a tub full of naked squealing  sluts.
 
  God, I hope it's true.
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 19:49 [#00432462]
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well I never went to a catholic school... so the brothers  never got a chance... 
 
  but it is pretty lame to poke fun at something like a  particular religion...  
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 19:50 [#00432465]
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Bad fleetmouse. Bad! No more trolling. 
  *spank*
  ooo i like that
  *spank*
 
  
         
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           princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-07 19:53 [#00432467]
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I went to a Christian school for my entire schooling  life..... I developed my hate for the Christian religion  that way. Sorry. 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 19:55 [#00432469]
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if you have a dislike for the religion fine... but why poke  fun at it? Why poke fun at the people who do believe in it?  What good comes from that...
 
  hmmm, sorry... I'm just really sensitive to religion  issues...  
 
  
         
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           princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-11-07 19:57 [#00432472]
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True man, true...
  btw, is your religion... sticking up for religions? ;)
 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 19:59 [#00432474]
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religion is igorance
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:01 [#00432476]
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well, in some ways I'm against religion... I believe if you  want to be a christian, read the bible and that's that...  all these rules for each religion is just bullshit... but I  do think that each religion has sacred ideas and beliefs  within them that are sacred to some people, and it's not my  place to judge, or poke fun of someone for believing them,  if I don't... 
 
 
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 20:02 [#00432478]
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I went to a Catholic highschool. They never did anything  particularly evil or even interesting. I just thought they  were playing a weird game of pretending to believe in  something ludicrous for reasons I could never fathom.
 
  Later when I became more politically aware I realized why  they were doing it, and how the promise of eternal damnation  or paradise is like a brain-handle that lets you pick a man  up and put him wherever you want.
 
  So basically I hate religion because it is an exploitative  tool used by the cynical against the ignorant.
 
  To me religious people are like those sad lifeless trekkies  who learn to speak Klingon and spend all their time devising  newer and better latex forehead bumps to wear at  conventions. And the tenets of most religions are no less  absurd.
 
 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:02 [#00432480]
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in a lot of ways I'm against religion I should say... 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 20:07 [#00432486]
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that and more
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2002-11-07 20:10 [#00432488]
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organized religion sucks a big fat hairy one
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:10 [#00432489]
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why is someone absurd if they choose to believe that there  is a God out there? How does anyone know that there isn't  one?  
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 20:13 [#00432491]
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I can't prove that there is no God. So I suppose that means  there might be one.
 
  And I can't prove that there isn't an intelligent race of  microscopic teakettles in your spleen, so I guess that's  also a possibility. 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 20:15 [#00432492]
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i think that's the whole point
  you've gotta work it out for yourself
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2002-11-07 20:15 [#00432493]
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organized religion has more to do with society than with  God. therefore i say it sucks. 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:16 [#00432495]
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but how can you be so absolute and come out and say that  people are absurd for believing in a religion then? Let  people believe what they want... and quit judging and making  fun of them for it...  
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:17 [#00432498]
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that is the whole point... but the thing I'm saying is don't  judge other people and call them stupid for their beliefs  because no one knows the final outcome of everything... so  know one is in a position to rightfully say "You're absurd"  to someone else...  
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 20:18 [#00432499]
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Just about every argument in favor of religion is squashed  like a bug daily here. 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 20:19 [#00432502]
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religion is a set of rules that you get told
  your own spirituality is something you come to understand  yourself 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:20 [#00432503]
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not really... because if a religion is true I don't believe  that we have the understanding to actually be able to  "squash" the arguements...  
 
  
         
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           JivverDicker
             from my house on 2002-11-07 20:22 [#00432505]
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Would you like to squash peoples lives? forget organized  religeon, do you find it fun/interesting to make some  peoples lives be worthless fleet? 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2002-11-07 20:22 [#00432506]
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but no one religion is true
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:22 [#00432507]
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yes, well spirituality is what I'm refering to I guess...  sorry for the misuse of religion...
 
  I totally agree... religion is what you're told, like you  said... spirituality you have to find yourself...  
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:22 [#00432508]
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how do you know this?
 
  
         
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           JivverDicker
             from my house on 2002-11-07 20:24 [#00432509]
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I know you find it fun at the moment but maybe you are  stepping on ground you don't know!  
 
  check me!!!! taking the moral high ground on something I  don't know anything about!
 
  anyway....fleet, answer the question.
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 20:26 [#00432511]
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Listen, if you want to sit at home and let your spleen  buddies brew you a nice cuppa, that's fine.
 
  But (al)most (all) people who believe in one God or another  want to enforce their beliefs on everyone else. 
 
  And to me those beliefs have are or are based upon prima  facie absurdities. And I don't want my world run by people  who seek to base civilization, morals and politics on  blatant fairy tales.
 
  You wanna go live in a theocracy, move to one. They'll be  happy to repress your women, cut the clits off your daughter  just for being born female, and stone you to death or burn  you at the stake for posting ideas like mine.
 
  If you're defending religion out of a misguided sense of  niceness or political correctness then you just haven't  thought this thing through. Think about it. 
 
  
         
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           Crocomire
             from plante (United States) on 2002-11-07 20:26 [#00432512]
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religion has more to do with this world, spirituality has  more to do with the beyond. 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:26 [#00432513]
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I just get so annoyed by the arrogant views of some people  who say "There is no God, and that's that!!"... you don't  know that...
 
  I believe in God, I choose to believe in God... but I'm not  going to say to someone who believes in hinduism that  they're wrong, because I wouldn't do that to someone... and  plus, I don't care... their beliefs don't bother me...  
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 20:27 [#00432515]
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harsh but good point.
  fuck, i hate agreeing.
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-07 20:28 [#00432516]
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I have neither the desire nor the ability to make anyone's  life be worthless.
 
  What exactly are you talking about?
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 20:29 [#00432517]
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no-one's mentioned believing because they need to. and a lot  of people need to. but let them. who cares? 
 
  
         
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           The_Funkmaster
             from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-11-07 20:30 [#00432518]
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you believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want...  but you're a fucking asshole if you poke fun at me or  someone else for their beliefs... 
 
 
 
  
         
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