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Unbelievable double cd for fuck-all cash mum, supersilent, signor ros, amon tobin, suicide etc...... a great and atmospheric collection from what has to be a truly great independent experimental-music mag. (no i don´t work for em... i wish) |
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Is that this months? I had a look and didn't notice amon on it... A mate lent me a load of old wire tappers CDs (1-5). Pretty far out stuff. |
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yep.. he´s there on cd2 no. 14 before dárcangelo max tundra has a class tune as does Asa-jang and Junray... tabla type drums with amazing stecato vocal samples I think a mate of mine has the other tappers...... i must design a mission of borrowage (??!!) |
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I have volumes 1 and 2 of this series. Great stuff by the likes of Panasonic, Tarwater, 2nd Gen, Solex, Scanner etc. I don't think any of it is exclusive, but it's nice anyway. Most of the Wire cover CDs are excellent, but often only available to subscribers :( |
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Best UK music mag by far & yep, that CD is very cool....did you see on the back cover that they'll be bringing out a book of pieces from it?...looks good... I've got Invisible Jukebox which is a collection of past IJ from the mag....very amusing stuff.... Think it's time to sibscribe and get some of the old Tappers free... |
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Got mine yesterday after work. Loved the D'Arcangelo and Electralane tunes. I'll have to ask for a subscription for a Xmas prezzy. Never bought it before. Its a bit pretentious but I'd rather that than the lowest common denominator Ministry. I hear Seven magazine has folded. Shame. It was a decent mag. Has anyone got any Asa Jang and Junray btw? I've got two more on a Leaf sampler (a bargain so keep yo eyes peeled) which are really good. |
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who's on the cover of these "ass tapper" magazines? i can't imagine anyone on rephlex or planet mu gracing the covers of any glossy magazines, not that i object |
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Leafcutter John from Planet Mu is on the sampler as is D'Arcangelo. |
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its hardly a glossy mag.... i believe it WAS owned by some publishing corp. but when the mag was threatened its journalists went independent and kept it going with their basic philosophy of fuck-boundries, labeling, rules... Its only "pretentious" if you think it goes against the norm for the sake of it rather than going against the norm as a side-effect for exploring ALL sound. Jand... any chance of an altruistic transcription of the Squarepusher I.J? |
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Hehe, I just got mine verry earrly this morrning. Ain't listened to the CD yet. |
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Why don't they give marks out of five for their reviews? That sux. |
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lol I wish they would aswell. |
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yeah.... u can really describe the passion and energy put into a piece of art by stateing "out of 5, i would give it a 3". |
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But all mags do it. It makes things easy. They could have a piece of wire with five markers and then highlight the number of markers to show how good an album is. It'd stick with the wire theme then. |
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god KEYFUMBLER, don't take it in a bad way, its just a quick synopsis of an album if you want to check quickly how good it is, like in the TV Times. |
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Maybe barbed wire and colour in up to a particular barb :) |
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marking out of ten is ridiculous -it's not a child's work - what are you checking for - mistakes |
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i have just got arround to sticking the CD in, so herre we go... |
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besides, most reviews are done in a matter of days or weeks when in fact an album might take months to really understand btw i wasn't calling the magazine "pretentious", but i do repeat: WHO is on the cover? |
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No-one is on the cover, it's just blue with 1982 - 2002 on it. Hence the free 20th anniversary double cd. If you mean who's been on the cover (it's matty not glossy btw), : Suicide, Boredoms, Tom Waits, Keiji Haino, DJ Shadow, John Oswald (Negativland), Alice Coltrane, Sonic Youth, Richard Hell, Le Tigre, Mercury Rev, Jim O'Rourke, Kid606, Acid Mothers Temple, Company Flow, Merzbow, Pole, Coil, Mouse On Mars, Stockhausen, Porter Ricks, Plaid, can, Photek, |
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Thom Yorke do not forget... |
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sounds wonderful splodge.. some of my favorite groups right there. i'll see if i can dig up some copies on ebay, as i imagine i won't be in the uk again for years to come. what does porter ricks' music sound like? i've oly heard the remix of nin's "the day the world went away" |
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wait, is this the same magazine as the wire, and the cd's are called "wire tapper" vol. _? if so, i'd feel real silly, having already known about the wire.. |
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this is an imprressive album forr £3.30 |
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Marks out of ten? |
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yeah, it's the same one, tits... I can't find my copy with the Inivisible Jukebox of SQPR in it...(the book is before then :( ) .... I think someone here should it and a scanner tho... anyone???.... (ps Aphex has been on the cover as well....they've always loved him....)... |
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What about the editor, Rob Young.. he does reviews as well. I have ambiguous feelings about his comments cos he is quite opinionated and ain't afraid to print it. There is a gas letter attacking his Flaming Lips review and he prints a defence with... " ... well, that was my opinion so - tough!" (paraphrased) at the end. Classic! His reviews also seem to be based on just a few listens, and like was mentioned above, it can take months to explore some of the stuff we like... Confeild, DoYouKnowSq.. etc.. buthis descriptions and use of language is great so i kind of forgive him too....Nuts! |
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"and he prints a defence with... " ... well, that was my opinion so - tough!" (paraphrased) " That's my point. Why can't they talk like normal people? |
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that IS normal mate... it's a journalist not saying what he thinks people want Reading a negative but well written review of a piece of art which I personally enjoy, is great. I can take the points made and reject them. It stirs the mind and the imagination... it provokes debate and exploration of the stuff. Leave the out-of-ten stuff to the masses... that is serves them best. |
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Well, I meant the hyperbole. I can deal with lit reviews in the broadsheets but the Wire writers seem to view writing about music as a creative act in itself. I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the marks out of 10 comment, but I DO find their reviews as an opportunity for the writer to express themselves rather than their interpratation and analysis of the music. But maybe I'm just thick. |
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jonesy.. i kinda thought you were being sarky alright! I see what you mean about the Wire guys being that way, but i see it as pure enthusiasm. I get the feeling they really enjoy what they are writing about. I find the Pitchfork reviews the same. .... high on real enthusiastic integrity, no matter what the opinion. Its all relative anyway. I suppose, if you have 20 peolple writng hyperbole intesive articles, 10/20 of em will be talking wank and 10/20 will be pouring out their genuine thoughs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray! |
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I guess. But I find the Pitchfork reviewers a bit less pretentious. |
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it is a creative act you fucking idiot!!!!! |
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Writing is a creative act, but perhaps not review writing. Thinking that writing about the artistic creations of others as being art in itself is frankly egotistical. I guess it all depends on what you view as being art. Personally I wouldn't call a review 'art'. At least none of the one's I've read :D I agree with jonesy, I wish that reviewers didn't try so hard to impress us with their prose; it just comes off as incredibly self-indulgent and it's only success is to give a few snotty students the chance chance to seem intelligent by pretending to understand it all. Of course, I hate it when reviews go completely the other way and make a reviewer just sound thick. There's a fine line between being descriptive and being a wanker. |
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Prepare to feel really silly, titsworth... |
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i have described raves and concerts to freind abroad via email and i have reviewed albums and i feel i genuinely pour out how the music has grabbed me, its reference points, what I think of it. My mates know that i am just saying what i feel even if they don't agree. I am not pretentious doing this, although some knob who didn't know me who'd read it mught think.. "what a twat!". So i just read the Wire with the assumptionn that the writers ARE into it, ARE genuine, HAVE ontegrity. Why? Because that mag does seem to be totally open minded and free from commercial restraint. If i am being led down the garden path, so be it! But i trust my own judgement and i believe i have made a good call and the result is a satisfying, stimulating read on a broad range of music every month. Lovely! |
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"it is a creative act you fucking idiot!!!!!" I can see you're the creative sort. You've clearly got the ability to construct an intelligent argument. |
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I wasn't questioning their passion for music, merely pointing out my frustration with their intellectual posturing. |
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you suggested you were stupid - i'm confirming it . don't question my creativity you don't know me. |
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I wasn't questioning your creativity, merely confirming it. |
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"like a mixture of electro stuff and really clunky german sounding techno with lots of drilly sounds" - taken from Transllusion @ Rephlex thread So you've forwarded your CV to the Wire then? |
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this is a message board - that was a brief simplistic expression of what it sounded like. i've no need to write to the wire - i'm regularily employed as a bbc journalist - now get back to your petty idiotic argument boy |
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hey.. isn't the free double CD brilliant.....? by the way! |
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Now now lads, lets not fight ;) I think xceque hit the nail on the head. |
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No wonder the BBC is so lame. Oh how my taxes are squandered. |
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fair enough: now i DO feel really silly. |
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give up child!! |
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i still stand by what i say, therre is nothing wrrong, orr dumb about giving an album a rrating, its just a synopsis for you to glance at if you don't have the time to rread a full rreview. |
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Yes. That's right, it's a hell of a lot easier to remember "oh yeah, that got 4/5 in jockey slut" than the specifics of a review. |
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