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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-23 00:21 [#00413758] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | see this documentary as well. michael moore's most provocative and hilarious work to date. www.michaelmoore.com
 
 
 
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         |  glass_eater
             from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2002-10-23 01:54 [#00413777] Points: 4904 Status: Regular
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 | yeah saw it i was talking about it in the "sniper strikes back" thread!
 yes great film...my god this supermarket that is given up
 guns if u become a member !!!
 michael moores fine, i loved the one about big american
 companies as well
 hes so funny !!!
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-23 12:30 [#00414229] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to glass_eater: #00413777
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 | it was a bank but yea he just went in, signed up for a bank account, and the bank tellers (who are licensed firearms
 dealers as well) gave him a gun from their collection of
 FIVE HUNDRED guns there in the bank. fucking madness.
 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2002-10-23 13:22 [#00414263] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
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 | i hope they show it here :( i love michael moore 
 
 
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         |  b0nk
             from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:01 [#00414306] Points: 1121 Status: Regular
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 | was he for gun control or was he explaining both sides?.. the thing about gun control is criminals are going to get
 gns no matter what, why punish the responisble gun owners
 who use it for hunting and self protection..
 
 
 
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         |  Zombiekev
             from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:09 [#00414319] Points: 2857 Status: Lurker
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 | i read a review about that film on the weekend, the pic for it had him holding a hunting rifle and a camera, it looks
 hilarious.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:40 [#00414348] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to b0nk: #00414306
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 | moore's a member of the NRA and as a kid he used to win awards for shooting, so he comes at the issue pretty fairly.
 obviously it's a VERRRRRRY subjective documentary but it's
 well grounded at the same time.
 
 
 
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         |  jonesy
             from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-10-24 01:41 [#00415152] Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to b0nk: #00414306
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 | Maybe they will, but the US has so many in circulation and so many deaths by firearms. Its a very different story over
 here where we have far fewer shootings.
 
 
 
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         |  MachineofGod
             from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-10-24 14:40 [#00415700] Points: 3088 Status: Lurker
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 | im seeing it tomorrow. ill report back tomorrow 
 
 
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         |  Conformist
             from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-24 14:42 [#00415705] Points: 550 Status: Lurker
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 | i used to be into Michael Moore's stuff, including both TV shows he's had in the past. but i dunno, i just got kind of
 sick of politics in general and lost interest in him or
 anything political. it just gets tiresome. Guy A doesn't
 like Guy B, so Guy A complains about it, then Guy B
 complains about that and starts to complain about Guy A, and
 it just goes on and on... life is too short to whine about
 politics.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 16:15 [#00415772] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Conformist: #00415705
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 | um what about the rights of humans, animals, workers, etc.? is that not important? politics isn't just about whining.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 16:18 [#00415776] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00414229
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 | sounds like good thinking to me.. a bank with 500 guns INSIDE already..
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 16:20 [#00415777] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00415776
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 | exactly. just like armed pilots. terrorists, leave your guns at home, we've got you covered!
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 16:21 [#00415779] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to titsworth: #00415777
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 | yeah.. you bring some ammunition, open a bank account, get a gun and rob the bank.. its a 4-step plan!
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 16:21 [#00415781] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | hope the documentary comes out in the Netherlands too.. love Moore..
 
 
 
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-10-24 16:26 [#00415786] Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to b0nk: #00414306
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 | LOL criminals are going to get guns no matter what??
 lol, great point
 we should make nuclear bombs legal, cus people are going to
 bulid them no matter what
 
 its a clear and indeniable pattern that countries with
 strict gun control have much lower violent crime rates
 
 and how is making someone register their gun "punishing"
 them??
 what about limiting the kinds of guns available?
 how is denying someone a fucking M-16 punshing them???
 
 NOBODY shoudl have the right to powerful weapons like that
 
 sometimes the United States seems to be possessed by a
 rampant individualism bordering on anarchy (ok thats a bit
 of an over-statement but u know what i mean).... its insane
 
 
 
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-10-24 16:27 [#00415787] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
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 | btw ive heard this documentary is great, im looking forward to seeing it
 
 
 
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         |  Conformist
             from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-24 16:38 [#00415794] Points: 550 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00415772
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 | you're such a tool. you really enjoy trying to provoke people, huh? first off, I didn't say the subject matter was
 unimportant, ya fucking gimp. I simply stated that it gets
 tiring hearing the same people complain about the same crap
 over, and over, and over, and over again without ever really
 doing anything to make some kind of change. if you like
 being so political, why don't you get off your ass, leave
 the mb, and try making a real difference in the world? you
 won't, because you know you can't, nobody can, and that's
 why politics gets boring fast. everyone complains about
 something, but do we ever try to change it? of course not,
 that involves work.
 
 
 
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         |  Conformist
             from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-24 16:39 [#00415795] Points: 550 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00415772
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 | now shut up and leave me alone, thanks. 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 17:51 [#00415842] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Conformist: #00415794
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 | mm.. sounds like titsworth hit on a sore spot there.. 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:09 [#00415849] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Conformist: #00415794
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 | *yawn* now THAT was boring.. 
 
 
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         |  Conformist
             from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:10 [#00415850] Points: 550 Status: Lurker
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 | get a life, kid. 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:10 [#00415851] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | how am i supposed to leave you alone if you keep coming at me with these cliche retorts?
 
 
 
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         |  Conformist
             from Powell, OH (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:12 [#00415853] Points: 550 Status: Lurker
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 | if you want to live your life stuck up and annoyed with every single aspect in the world you disagree with and
 always be unhappy, then by all means, go for it. but don't
 try to drag me down with you, i'm perfectly happy living a
 life without worry of things that can't and won't change
 just because i don't like it. take you for example: you're a
 goddamn cunt, but will I waste my time complaining and try
 to change you? of course not, some things just aren't worth
 the effort.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:14 [#00415855] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Conformist: #00415853
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 | i'm not replying to any of your generalizations cos they're baseless. you're guessing (not necessarily correctly) at my
 tone through text on a message board. assuming you even get
 the tone correctly, how can you approximate my whole
 lifestyle and personal interests? when have i ever said i
 was annoyed with every single aspect of the world? i think
 you're projecting here. i don't know what's wrong with you
 but i know it has nothing to do with me. i wish you luck in
 sorting out your problems.
 
 
 
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         |  two
             from Rataq (Qatar) on 2002-10-24 18:15 [#00415857] Points: 91 Status: Lurker
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 | you're both idiots. let's leave it at that and move on with our lives, mmm'kay?
 
 good.
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:17 [#00415860] Points: 242 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00415855
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 | talk about blatant arrogance :) no wonder ppl dislike you, heh
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:18 [#00415864] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Elastic: #00415860
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 | \/\/. i am who i am, deal with it. i don't troll for friends, so if people dislike me that's their business. i
 have enough things to think about without worrying if enough
 people like me.
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:20 [#00415866] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | lol :) aren't you special?
 
 yawns in your general direction
 
 
 
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         |  Gubb
             on 2002-10-24 18:21 [#00415867] Points: 439 Status: Regular
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 | i dont see whats wrong with that post. he is just defending himself from conformists accusations..
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:23 [#00415869] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | "so if people dislike me that's their business" 
 then why bother trying to start a fight with Conformist? :)
 let him have his opinion and just ignore him, no harm done
 guys
 
 everyone being too uptight tonight on the mb :)
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:24 [#00415871] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Elastic: #00415869
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 | i was just clarifying myself for anyone who's interested in the truth. he's still more than likely to take his anger out
 on me, i just don't want people to get the wrong idea about
 my views on the world.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:25 [#00415873] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | i meant "more than welcome" 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:26 [#00415875] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | then why do you continue taking your anger out on him? seems you did provoke him in other topics i've seen... you tend to
 do that with him often
 
 again that's just from what i've seen, i could be wrong
 
 
 
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         |  corngrower
             from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:26 [#00415876] Points: 4404 Status: Lurker
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 | I don't see why so many people try to rip into titsworth for voicing his honest opinion :/
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:28 [#00415877] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | it's just a message board anyhow, supposedly geared toward electronic music. who cares about anyones views of the
 world? let's talk about music :)
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 18:28 [#00415878] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | lets take sides! 
 I'm with titsworth on this one..
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:28 [#00415879] Points: 242 Status: Regular | Followup to corngrower: #00415876
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 | but it's wrong for Conformist to voice his honest opinion? that's a rather diluted way to think
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:28 [#00415880] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | to be honest, except for 10 or so users i don't even pay attention to people's names. i have a habit of just reading
 the messages, only sometimes reading who wrote them. even
 then i often lose track of who's who cos there are so many
 people on here. if i reply it's not cos i'm picking on
 someone but cos a message or topic has spurred me to
 respond. it's not that deep, really.
 
 
 
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         |  Zombiekev
             from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:29 [#00415881] Points: 2857 Status: Lurker
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 | what ever happen to the discussion about the flick? 
 was it good?
 should i go spend 8 bucks?
 
 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:30 [#00415882] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | all i mean though is there's no sense in fighting you guys :) come on, get happy!
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:31 [#00415886] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zombiekev: #00415881
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 | zombie: it's excellent! i can't wait to get it on dvd, i really enjoyed it. it sucks when people topic-jack, but if
 an issue needs to be addressed then so be it.. it'd be nice
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         |  Gubb
             on 2002-10-24 18:31 [#00415887] Points: 439 Status: Regular | Followup to titsworth: #00415880
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 | i got a similar problem.as soon as people change their avatars i forget who they are.. its annoying.
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-24 18:32 [#00415889] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | nah, go for the conflict.. 
 
 
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         |  Zombiekev
             from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:32 [#00415891] Points: 2857 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00415886
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 | i hear you. 
 thats one of the reasons i started posting less.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:32 [#00415892] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Elastic: #00415882
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 | elastic: are you taking the piss or what? just a few minutes ago you were saying i deserve it for my arrogance and now
 you're saying we're being childish for fighting? have you
 read my replies to conformist? i'm not even fighting. it IS
 pointless cos it doesn't really have anything to do with me.
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:33 [#00415896] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Gubb: #00415887
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 | gubb: i keep seeing conformist's avatar, reading his posts (on other threads), and wondering when i wrote that... until
 i read his user name
 
 
 
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         |  corngrower
             from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:35 [#00415899] Points: 4404 Status: Lurker | Followup to Elastic: #00415882
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 | I'm sorry I seem so deluded to you (?) 
 
 
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         |  Elastic
             from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-24 18:36 [#00415902] Points: 242 Status: Regular
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 | no no, i'm just saying we all should get over it and move on. is it really worth it to try and top each other on the
 nastiness meter? :)
 
 i'm not pointing the finger of blame at anyone, not for what
 anyone said including myself, i just think it's pointless to
 drag this out forever.
 
 like someone else said, let's just get back to the real
 topic here: bowling for columbine
 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-10-24 18:40 [#00415911] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | maybe it's this topic name that has you guys heated? 
 i don't think i'm being nasty. i'm trying to explain my
 actions, but asides from that i just aim to be myself - not
 nasty, polite, or anything in specific. i speak my mind, and
 if i can't do so on an idm message board, then where can i?
 
 
 
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