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Philip K Dick William Gibson Douglas Adams Kurt Vonnegut |
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Greg Bear AC Clark |
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Kal Pittaway |
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I've only read one Iain M Banks and it wasn't my bag. However, I recently got Do Androids Dream... and some Ursula le Guin stuff (the Dispossed'). |
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William Gibson is one my fave writers in any genre...most sci-fi is just pulp, Gibson turns it into literature... And yeah, PK Dick is good...great ideas but often pretty poorly written...His life story is a good a read as his books; that's pretty rare for a writer.... I've liked what i've read of Greg Bear as well...my other-half loves his stuff... |
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What? Can you read with your dick or something? |
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*groan* |
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+And yeah, PK Dick is good...great ideas but often pretty poorly written...His life story is a good a read as his books; that's pretty rare for a writer.... + ???? |
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"????" ???? ;) |
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Stanislaw Lem Philip K Dick Roger Zelazny Ursula LeGuin (though she 's done some shit too) William Gibson Robert Silverberg (same as Ursula) |
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Vonegutt too, only he's not strictloy SF |
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the bit about him being a poor writer...his writing is lucid, economical and brilliantly vivid..that's a style you develop when you write as many short stories as he wrote..making every word count! |
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I know. He is god. 'nuff said |
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oh yeah and george wells of course although I've only read the invisible man and the time machine. |
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OK, then I guess I will have to put in Jules Verne too. And Edgar Allan Poe |
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d'oh forgot verne. I read quite a lot of his work while learning french. Great stuff. |
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And I guess Isaac Asimov and Arthur Clarke have to get honorable mentions. But I forgot to put two very important writers, I apologise: Theodor Sturgeon Frederik Pohl |
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i hope no ones forgetting grant naylor! |
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Uhh, sorry, who is that? |
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He wrote Red Dwarf and has yet to be punished. |
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grr! they did 2 red dwarf novels...then split into rob grant and doug naylor, and did another red dwarf novel each. douglas adams is a good choice tho^ |
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LOL! heh, nice one. |
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So, I take it those red dwarf novels are comedy? |
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erm yes. i take it your not a RD fan then? |
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RD da shit bruvvah. |
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Far from it. |
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I have never read it, I have never heard of those guys. I know only of big guys like Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchet when it comes to sf/f comedy. |
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Red Dwalf is NOT Shit thank you :P |
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you no speaka da lingo bruvvah |
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You're right; I wouldn't elevate it to that status. |
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Boy, your a worry. |
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your looking very sharp tonight jonesy...have you got a hot date lined up? |
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red dwarf is one of the best tv comedy sci fis of all time....its been around longer then the simpsons and is being made into a movie, 4 novels have been made....evidently the people who count dont think its shit. :P |
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I agree with ya flea...but a lot of his style comes from having to write quickly against a deadline and/or word limit; it was kinda forced on him...& you can't underplay the affect of amphetamines on him & his style (and entwined in his themes as well...)... I do like the style...but just can't help feeling we never got to see the full extent of his talent...just the tip of the iceberg...Hopefully his unpublished stuff will eventually appear & we'll see something of the real PKD... |
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I didn't say it was shit. I said it was the shit. It's sic bruv. |
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Well Holly, I'd say its the best Show named Red Dwarf. Nah, I liked it. :P And Jonsey... my my, your looking handsome this evening! :D |
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C'mon man, its all knob jokes and sarcasm. Popularity does not = good; just look at all the people who bought the Hear'say album (fastest selling debut ever). The masses cannot judge as they are largely ignorant scum. dmise: no date. come round with a tub of KY and I'll let you fuck me 'til your knob snaps. |
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sorry i didnt understand..i have a build-up of smeg thats interfeering with my cleavernessing |
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Get ya shit together would ya! |
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Jand: he did have a raw, often even clumsy style. It was madde up for by the power of his visions. Some of his books are not much more than acid trips made literature (Galactic pot-healer being a case in point). He's up there with Burroughs in writing from the other side, in my book. Also, your comment about having to write fast against the deadlines reminded me of another very important SF/F author who made pulp noble: Michael Moorcock. There is a dedication in one of his collections saying that "This book is dedicated to the time when if the story could not be written in 24 hours, it wasn't worth being written" Another very important if not prolific name: J.G. Ballard |
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Tempting.....but i'm not a big fan of back door shenanigans. |
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PKD = God ok ? End of debate. As for Red Dwarf, I never found it remotely funny. Punchlines that pretty much always end in something beginning with the "smeg" (whatever the heck it means) irritate me. It's definately not what I call science fiction. It's shitty comedy in a space opera setting. nuff said ! PKD on the other hand is science fiction at it's best. |
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I wasn't trying to badmouth PKD as he is one of my fave writers, I really love his shit, OK? But have you read Lem? His stuff pisses on most american SF without as much as breaking a sweat. And now Holywood makes another version of "Solaris" which was originally Lem's finest book , made film by Andrej Tarkowski. Stupid fucking holywood bozos..... |
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sorry wrong followup clickey ;) |
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yeah, PKD did have some amazing ideas...he'll porbably be appreciated more as the years go on.... Dunno about Moorcock...never read anything of his... |
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You shitting me? He wrote over 60 books and they are all more or less corresponding with each other. He was another part of the new wave that Dick, Zelazny and the rest belonged to, only he was a brit. He played in Hawkwind for a short while, too. |
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PKD was poor wasn't he? I read or was told that he was reduced to eating dogfood. |
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yup thasright jonesy. Such a shame but then again very few Sci-Fi writters made much money in those days. I think my faves so far has to be 3 stigmata and scanner darkly |
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Good choices. A scanner darkly is his unsung masterpiece. His style got refined by then and some of the parts in that book are just unbelievably trippy but still controlled. Throw in Ubik and you are a winner. |
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Check out the media section of the recently re-vamped . There's a stream of an interview he gave just before it's release in which he talks about his editor who taught him how to refine his character construction and story telling. |
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