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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-29 01:24 [#00370123]
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why do you buy vinyl? do you use it for mixing? do you like how music sounds played on vinyl?
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Clic
on 2002-08-29 01:52 [#00370152]
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I don't buy it.
No.
Yes. In some cases, it sounds better than CD.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-08-29 01:52 [#00370153]
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it sounds better it's cheaper
mixing with cds is lame
we have parties with two turntables who ever wants to spin brings thier records
why buy cds when they can be downloaded? vinyl is bigger
it has a better sound if mastered properly and is a 120 plus gram press
i still buy cds too but you gotta love vinyl
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-08-29 01:52 [#00370154]
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its just plain cool, there!
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death-pengwin
from Medicine Hat (Canada) on 2002-08-29 01:55 [#00370157]
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i noticed that vinyl has higher sound quality is far more cool than cds.
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-08-29 01:59 [#00370161]
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yeah
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-08-29 01:59 [#00370162]
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Vinyl has more warmth, just sounds better. If you could see the sound vinyl looks like a polygraph test nice flowing lines, cd's are pixelated with square edges. Regular consumers wont notice a difference, but music connoiseur's musicians producers notice. Vinyl is the best medium for music, notice you cant buy 8tracks or player's anymore and tapes are pretty obsolete, but you can buy $3000 and up to $8000 dollar turntables and $250 dollar stylus(needles).
Cd's are convienent to listen to in your car, but i hate how the bottoms are exposed if they would have designed them like a minidisc so the surface is protected and couldnt be scratched it would be much better, vinyl is exposed too but you dont have to insert vinyl through a slot that will scratch it a little everytime you put in the car cd player. You can still find vinyl that is up to 60 yrs old that can still be played and may be in mint condition, in 60 years will there be many cd that old that are still playable? i doubt it. And of course for Dj mixing vinyl is a must especially if you plan to cut or scratch.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 02:04 [#00370168]
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I only like cd's, maybe because I don't have a record player. Plus it would be quite inconvenient to have a record-man (like a cd-man) Is the clicky pop sounds what attract people to them?
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ExHore
from Stamford, Ct. (United States) on 2002-08-29 02:08 [#00370172]
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that too
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 02:13 [#00370181]
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but that's something that's added to every track whether you want it or not. with cd's you can include it if you really want, but it's not there to annoy you when you don't
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-29 03:10 [#00370226]
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i have vinyl i think it is cool to play vinyl
but cds are just easier if you want to listen to albums with out having to FLIP
or if you want to play five cds and hit shuffle
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doug
from Sydney (Australia) on 2002-08-29 03:27 [#00370238]
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electro, but what about those classic old jukeboxes? ;) If only the belt wasnt broken on my record player :/ must fix it one day.
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-29 03:32 [#00370239]
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yeah but i guess a 5 cd changer is hell lot cheaper than a juke box
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Diao
from Olathe (United States) on 2002-08-29 04:36 [#00370312]
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I enjoy vinyl for home listening purposes, but for mixing and things I think vinyl has lost it. It is SO much easier to mix stuff with a CD player or computer. When I have parties and shit, I just turn on winamp, arrange the tracks, and have the fade function on so it fades the tracks for you.
Vinyl is also cheaper, and jimisteel is correct, vinyl has a much higher sound quality. As CD's are limited to 1411 kbps, vinyl has no limit, so the sounds can remain unchanged in the final format.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-08-29 04:40 [#00370317]
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a lot of releases are vinyl only, so you miss out on a lot if youre only into cds...
also, everyone knows vinyls are so much cooler.
;)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-08-29 04:42 [#00370321]
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vinyl is NOT cheaper than cds, but i'm prepeared to sacrifice that
its more of a product, more aesthetically pleasing in so many different ways, holding it in your hand, smelling it, playing it the wrong speed because you forgot to look or the speed is written wrongly, and yes it sounds better, and (this is the best part) you can watch it going around while its playing!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-08-29 04:48 [#00370331]
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wat i dont get though is why people say vinyl sounds better than cd. to me, it sounds a lot less good, but then again, ive got a crappy turntable...
if only i could listen to my vinyls in my car...
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-29 04:50 [#00370338]
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it is cool but cds are convenient especialy if you want to listen to something in the car
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-08-29 05:27 [#00370373]
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i never buy vinyl but friends have told me it a RICHER sound. i can't remember the last time i heard a record on a record player........i don't know many people who own records or the players.
i have a pretty big vinyl collection that i've been given or picked up here and there. but i've never listened to one album cos i don't have a playa....i need to find somone with one so i can hear what i'm missing =0)
as far as vinyl being cheaper....i dunno i always thought it was more expensive?
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2002-08-29 05:36 [#00370378]
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I still have the Batman and ghostvusters 2 soundtrack on vinyl...
I found the beatles blue and red albums too...
yeah my turntable is crap, so It just collects dust in the corner.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2002-08-29 10:41 [#00370873]
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Taken from http://www.r3mix.net:
Myth 2. Vinyl records are the best because they are analog while digital sampling ruins the sound.
Reality check: Vinyl is a very primitive recording medium. The artifacts, pops, and lack of dynamic range make Vinyl far inferior to CD. CD's sampling rates and 16-bit word length provide *more* information than the human ear can detect. Audio compression proves that you can remove up to 4/5th of the data from a CD and still come up with equal sound quality in a blind test using real world material.
Reasons I dislike vinyl include the popping/clicking (I honestly cannot see how anyone can enjoy surface noise interfering with the original music), the space limitations (having to flip the record every 10-15 mins depending on the quality it was mastered at), the easy degradation of the vinyl (this is less of a problem if cared for properly, but I still have to use a carbon fibre cleaner to remove any excess dust particles before I play my records), and finally, the fact that it isn't a portable medium.
On the other hand, vinyl covers are usually better, vinyl as a whole feels like a much more 'special' music medium, and vinyl has stood the test of time for many, many years now.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-29 10:48 [#00370878]
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The dynamic range of CDs I find are very thin. = digital.... zeros and ones. :S
The vinyl sound is so warm and cuddly! I also like vinyl for collectoring perpurses!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-29 10:49 [#00370880]
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...I doubt if "collectoring" is even a word..
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 10:55 [#00370884]
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I generally prefer vinyl ,though its less convenient in many ways. There's just something more magical and interactive when placing a needle down on a record. CDs are cold and clinical. However, when in your car or whe falling asleep CDs are the only choice.
BTW Do burned CDs deteriorate over time? There's no seal right?
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-08-29 11:00 [#00370889]
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thats bullshit cuz i can hear the difference between dvd-audio and cd.. dvd is way better at a 96 sampling rate. vinyl has no sample rate..
new sonic youth album on vinyl 12 dollars cd is 19 dollars and this at the same store!!
and finnally has anyone ever been to a RAVE. the music is so loud and bassy and clear and that shit is all vinyl.. i've seen dieselboy life and that shit is no fucking winamp plug in.. please there is no comparison.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-08-29 11:01 [#00370893]
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oh yeah and new vinyl has virtually NO surface noise.. there is a big difference between today's modern vinyl and your dads Led Zepplin albums
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uzim
on 2002-08-29 11:11 [#00370910]
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...vinyl? i don't have a record player, besides they'd be impossible to find (even on the internet, most vinyls are unavailable)... it's just luxury to me...
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-08-29 11:13 [#00370914]
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huh? what planet are you from dude? no offense but vinyl is all over the net. ever heard of warpmart? forcedexposure.com and 3 million other sites that sell vinyl
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heptanary
from the place where nobody whants (Spain) on 2002-08-29 11:19 [#00370922]
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"Spin the black circle"
There r my reasons... Magic reasons...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 11:26 [#00370929]
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you guys are too anal....vinyl was good but cd's are just the way forward. I don't like having to get up and swap sides and although the sound may be SLIGHTLY different, I think its a matter of opinion if its better or not. The music is stored digitally anyway before put onto the medium so on cd you're more likely to be hearing it as the person made it
its like people moaning on about MD's being lossy...it gets pretty boring
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 12:09 [#00370978]
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Vinyl is often cheaper for me to buy. When I was living in Nottingham, which are well stocked with vinyl, I picked up sooooo much new stuff that 1)isn't available on Cd or 2)was just way, way cheaper. I got about four ninja tune albums for £2.99 including Wagon Christ and flanger.
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neetta
from Finland on 2002-08-29 12:13 [#00370984]
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well i buy vinyl because:
it feels more meaningful than a cd it sounds somehow better it mixes better it takes up more room :) the covers are usually far greater vinyls are harder to get (at least here) vinyls make me feel special :)
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 12:24 [#00371005]
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CDs are for yuppies
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-29 12:26 [#00371008]
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Too right. ..and there got no style.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-08-29 12:26 [#00371009]
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i don't care much about vinyl (mainly because i don't have a player.)
And why are the dj's getting hassled because they're mixing with cd's rather than vinyl? it's all about the music isn't it??
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 12:28 [#00371014]
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exactly..
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 12:29 [#00371016]
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Its about the skillz!
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-29 12:32 [#00371021]
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I think people love the distortions on vinyl. Yes, vinyl can handly a higher range of frequencies but they distort the audio a lot. The needle touches the vinyl so every time you play it, a layer is being scraped off and the needle is slightly damaged. Vinyl also needs almost impossible perfect conditions(no dust/scratches, perfect balance/weight/speed) to outperform a decent CD player.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 12:32 [#00371023]
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muso-snob! :P
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-29 12:33 [#00371025]
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Believe!
Who was it that brought out a record that would scrath the others that were piled against it? I forget.
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hedphelym
from Montreal (Canada) on 2002-08-29 12:37 [#00371029]
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I'm sure someone's probably already said this, but: It's easier to PLAY with (backwards, pitch, etc.)
(Aside from the sound and mixing.)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-29 12:41 [#00371035]
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True, however, there are CD players with scratch function today. Never heard them in actual action, tho...
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heptanary
from the place where nobody whants (Spain) on 2002-08-29 12:41 [#00371036]
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U can also buy that Pioneer monster CD player vinyl like
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nekta
from shezlick (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 13:30 [#00371103]
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you can get quirky stuff on vinyl too, i mean where can you get a he-man picture CD? you can't! and nothing beats the sound of scratching a record well......
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-29 17:14 [#00371316]
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i didnt buy music in a long time if i was going to buy any album now it is going to be vinyl it is easy to get the player connected to Pc and make your own MP3 and take them with you
with vinyl i thnk it is more of an experience and homeyness you sit at home and listen to the record
cds are good and convenient but vinyl stays original
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sine707
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2002-08-29 17:25 [#00371324]
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10 good reasons for vinyl
1. it looks nicer.... like a treasure almost... 2. seeing the records spin and watching the label is awesome, regardless what type of music it is
3. you need to do researches in the few record stores that still carry vinyl.... which is cool..
4. popping and clicking can be avoided if you clean your records properly. a good needle is also needed. and a good player as well... if it still pops, what the heck, it's atmospheric
5. when you browse through records in the store, people think you're cool and stare at you, because you are browsing these old large black plates.
6. vinyl is more limited than CDs. it gives them a rare-status.
7. flipping the record is great, because you know exactly where that particular song is.
8. it is cool to get a record, talk to you friends meanwhile and tell them how great this record is, while putting it on.
9. vinyl can be coloured or even pictured, which is cool. 10. they have different sizes. and that is also.........cool!
;)
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-29 18:55 [#00371465]
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oh and vinyl is for revolutionaries.?
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Desdemona
from Lake Mendota on 2002-08-29 19:12 [#00371486]
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I happen to like that popping and clicking sound - used to use it as background noise on tapes to help me sleep.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-08-29 19:37 [#00371530]
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Got new neighbors last week. They have a vintage turntable and and 8-track player!
I forgot to rip a few records a few years ago when I did my collection, now I can borrow a player and finish the job.
My record collection is still stored on spinning plates ... just at about 200x LP speed on my hard drives. Progress indeed.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-08-29 19:47 [#00371541]
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Vinyl enthusiasts check this out. http://www.vpiindustries.com/ click on products and check out the TNT Mk 5 & Mk 5 HR.
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