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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 22:49 [#00362242]
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ok, can someone explain to me in simple terms what DSP is and what it does?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:05 [#00362273]
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digital signal processor - basically is what it sounds like I think, a chip for processing signals for sound...you get them in some synths (like nord modular) and soundcards (like the pulsars) meaning no cpu power is used up
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-23 23:08 [#00362280]
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b3n what happened to your pic, man?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 23:12 [#00362290]
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that's cool. so it just saves people from using up cpu power? i thought there was more to it than that. thanks ben!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:13 [#00362294]
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oh I just decided not to have one, I prefer it this way
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-23 23:14 [#00362297]
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oh. not even change it back to that ray mears bloke? i still associate him with you when i see that guy :)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:19 [#00362313]
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not just that, software is specially made for the hardware and they can work together to get much better quality sounds than merely software on a pc. I've got a soundcard with some dsp and the reverbs that come with it are much better than most VST's ones. However you end up spending more, and its all deciding whether its worth it
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:37 [#00362343]
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ok i'll try find it =)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 23:45 [#00362347]
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that's really cool though! thanks AGAIN ben :)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-24 00:02 [#00362361]
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please do :) we could reminisce ;)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 00:31 [#00362392]
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the cpu in your computer is a dsp. any fucking computer with a chip in which can perform calculations on long streams of data is a dsp (ie. any fucking computer around - my psion palmtop is a dsp). ALL desktop computers these days are faster than outboard dsp chips (xcept perhaps Kyma - no experience for me so i dont know), you have a dsp chip on your soundcard unless you have a really old one.
Dsp is fucking everything - it aint just those wooshy fx used as bridges on IDM records, its *everything* audible which comes out of a computer.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 00:35 [#00362395]
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and what the fuck is max/dsp? do you mean max/msp?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-24 02:50 [#00362469]
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maybe i do! what's max/msp? indoor voices please.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:30 [#00363199]
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what's an indoor voice?
http://www.cycling74.com
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SwitchFrontside
on 2002-08-24 11:34 [#00363206]
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i know there are heaps of DSP effects.... i am sure DSP is more refined than normal signal processing...
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:38 [#00363211]
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what? more refined? like it has afternoon tea or something?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-24 11:40 [#00363214]
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hahahaha
squarepushers a DSP chap theses days..
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:41 [#00363216]
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yeah, did you hear about that £6000 granulater/reverb/whatever-the-fuck-you-like box he bought recently? apparently its all over his new stuff.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:44 [#00363223]
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found the details: an Eventide Orville harmonizer - $5000 does timestretching and reverb, apprently
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 12:37 [#00363256]
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surely its all down to how powerful the dsp chips are though? like the EMU chip on the SB Live is far less powerful than a SHARC chip on a creamware card
also, DSP chips on audio hardware are specifically designed to do that job
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 12:58 [#00363260]
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my point was that: dsp doesnt necessarily have to be realtime, and it doesnt have to be on a chip. It doesnt even have to have anything to do with audio - it could be video graphics, or a digitized set of temperature readings from a north pole research laboratory. I just so much hate it when people go about a song "ooh he/she uses a bit of dsp there!" or whatever.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 13:07 [#00363262]
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yup I understand what you're saying
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progeriak
from belgium boarder (France) on 2002-08-24 15:12 [#00363288]
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FAsttracker rulez www.progeriac.fr.st
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