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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 22:49 [#00362242] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | ok, can someone explain to me in simple terms what DSP is and what it does?
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:05 [#00362273] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker
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 | digital signal processor - basically is what it sounds like I think, a chip for processing signals for sound...you get
 them in some synths (like nord modular) and soundcards (like
 the pulsars) meaning no cpu power is used up
 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-23 23:08 [#00362280] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker
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 | b3n what happened to your pic, man? 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 23:12 [#00362290] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to B3n: #00362273
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 | that's cool. so it just saves people from using up cpu power? i thought there was more to it than that. thanks ben!
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:13 [#00362294] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00362280
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 | oh I just decided not to have one, I prefer it this way 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-23 23:14 [#00362297] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker
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 | oh. not even change it back to that ray mears bloke? i still associate him with you when i see that guy :)
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:19 [#00362313] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to titsworth: #00362290
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 | not just that, software is specially made for the hardware and they can work together to get much better quality sounds
 than merely software on a pc. I've got a soundcard with some
 dsp and the reverbs that come with it are much better than
 most VST's ones. However you end up spending more, and its
 all deciding whether its worth it
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-23 23:37 [#00362343] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00362297
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 | ok i'll try find it =) 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-23 23:45 [#00362347] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to B3n: #00362313
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 | that's really cool though! thanks AGAIN ben :) 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-08-24 00:02 [#00362361] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker | Followup to B3n: #00362343
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 | please do :) we could reminisce ;) 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 00:31 [#00362392] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | the cpu in your computer is a dsp. any fucking computer with a chip in which can perform calculations on long streams of
 data is a dsp (ie. any fucking computer around - my psion
 palmtop is a dsp). ALL desktop computers these days are
 faster than outboard dsp chips (xcept perhaps Kyma - no
 experience for me so i dont know), you have a dsp chip on
 your soundcard unless you have a really old one.
 Dsp is fucking everything - it aint just those wooshy fx
 used as bridges on IDM records, its *everything* audible
 which comes out of a computer.
 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 00:35 [#00362395] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | and what the fuck is max/dsp? do you mean max/msp? 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-24 02:50 [#00362469] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #00362395
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 | maybe i do! what's max/msp? indoor voices please. 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:30 [#00363199] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | what's an indoor voice? 
 http://www.cycling74.com
 
 
 
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         |  SwitchFrontside
             on 2002-08-24 11:34 [#00363206] Points: 818 Status: Regular
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 | i know there are heaps of DSP effects.... i am sure DSP is more refined than normal signal processing...
 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:38 [#00363211] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | what? more refined? like it has afternoon tea or something? 
 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-08-24 11:40 [#00363214] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #00363211
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 | hahahaha 
 squarepushers a DSP chap theses days..
 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:41 [#00363216] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | yeah, did you hear about that £6000 granulater/reverb/whatever-the-fuck-you-like box he bought
 recently? apparently its all over his new stuff.
 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 11:44 [#00363223] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | found the details: an Eventide Orville harmonizer - $5000
 does timestretching and reverb, apprently
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 12:37 [#00363256] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #00363216
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 | surely its all down to how powerful the dsp chips are though? like the EMU chip on the SB Live is far less
 powerful than a SHARC chip on a creamware card
 
 also, DSP chips on audio hardware are  specifically designed
 to do that job
 
 
 
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         |  steve mcqueen
             from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 12:58 [#00363260] Points: 6639 Status: Regular
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 | my point was that: dsp doesnt necessarily have to be realtime, and it doesnt have to be on a chip. It doesnt even
 have to have anything to do with audio - it could be video
 graphics, or a digitized set of temperature readings from a
 north pole research laboratory. I just so much hate it when
 people go about a song "ooh he/she uses a bit of dsp there!"
 or whatever.
 
 
 
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         |  B3n
             from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-24 13:07 [#00363262] Points: 4700 Status: Lurker | Followup to steve mcqueen: #00363260
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 | yup I understand what you're saying 
 
 
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         |  progeriak
             from belgium boarder (France) on 2002-08-24 15:12 [#00363288] Points: 222 Status: Lurker
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 | FAsttracker rulez www.progeriac.fr.st 
 
 
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