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Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste they hurry past it. -Soren Kierkegaard, philosopher (1813-1855) ** women can be included in that statement as well, how very sad and true!! |
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that is a good quote one to remember |
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For what purpose humanity is there should not even concern us: why you are there, that you should ask yourself: and if you have no ready answer, then set for yourself goals, high and noble goals, and perish in pursuit of them! I know of no better life purpose than to perish in attempting the great and the impossible... Nietzsche, unpublished note from the 1873 |
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i'm glad you enjoyed it tolstoyed!! --------- Nietzsche is just full of jewels, eh =0) |
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Nietzsche is my number one. I' m a Philosophy student... |
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that's quite good, where do you get these? As for hurrying, I think I must be the type of person who rushes past everythnig without realising it becuae everyone tells me to slow down all the time. i thought was all very calm and chilled out but i think im a stressbomb that doesnt know it /therapy - od |
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oops nevemind the where did you get it - retarded |
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ohhhhh i'm sorry =0) J/K btw od_step_cloak no worries, i always cite my QUOTE sources, i like to give credit where credit is due =0) |
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:) a lot of my mates are 1st year uni students so i hear a lot of philosophy stuff and they all seem to (as it seems the trend is among 1st year uni students) fancy themselves as political geniuses. oh well. |
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seen that pure bullshit |
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"The belief in truth is part of the elementary forms of religious life. It is a weakness of understanding, of common-sense. At the same time, it is the last stronghold for the supporters of morality, for the apostles of the legality of the real and the rational, according to whom the reality principle cannot be questioned. Fortunately, nobody, not even those who teach it, lives according to this principle, and for a good reason: nobody really believes in the real. Nor do they believe in the evidence of real life. This would be too sad. " - Jean Baudrillard, in "Radical Thought" heptanary: you a philosophy student eh? moi aussi [sp?] - cool cool, yeah, Nietzsche I think will always be on my "island top 5" list of philosophers .. though some of this post-structuralism/post-modernism is getting to me at the moment .. :) |
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That Baudrillard quote is quite "Nitezchie". I suppose some of us study to live 4ever poor.... |
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LeCoeur - wicked quote - I must really read some Kierkegaard - he's always intrigued me (ie. when referred to in passing in books and what not) .. parently he was quite a strange little chap, who published his books under all sorts of strange pseudonyms? |
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:) guess so .. yeah, I think (although this is quite a controversial area), that a lot of late Nietzsche has a lot of post-modern elements in it. But yeah, Baudrillard is quite provocative. "truth is error" "i'm afraid god is not dead for we still have faith in grammar" (or something to that effect). |
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I have faith in generative gramar Chomsky's linguistics seem to reveal a strong base for anarchy. Even when himself avoids pointin that. |
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I'm not too familiar with Chomsky - can never remember which side of the nature/nurture debate he was - was he the guy that said we have an inherent language device? i have faith in the irrationality of rationality? hermmm... mmmhhh.. hehe |
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yeah inherent language device so inherent capacities for livin free and develop as humans IMO the best way to approach him is through his attack on Skinner. The dicotomy rational/irrational has never been more well explained. |
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i have faith in the irrationality of rationality? YOU SHOULD That's part of the chaos theory |
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really? I'm not that familiar with the chaos theory .. at the moment I'm trying to convince my lecturer, or at least let him concede that truth may = error :) Pretty hard, coz he's arguing from a 'credulous' point of view, not absolutist or skeptic!! |
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hey dude, can you recommend some text or something re: chaos theory ?? |
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A "credulous" point of view?? Sounds strange... Anyway, truth equals error allways. Just a matter of time. |
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I read bout chaos in the net But maybe u seen Pi (the movie). That also has a lot of chaos theory in. |
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this is a direct quote from my lecturer: "It's very easy to set up a false oppositions: either we can be certain of something or else we must be deeply sceptical of it. If you have those two as your only options, then it's quite easy to generate the sort of line that I associate with post-modernist writers. However, there are plenty of other options: you might (and I do) typically accept what people say as true, but always reserve the right to revise your beliefs when more evidence comes in. This is what you might call a 'credulous' as oposed to a 'sceptical' outlook. I suspect that without being credulous, communication between people would be impossible. And I also suspect that if you take Credulism seriously, none of the alarming (paradoxical?) consequences of reasoning about science will follow." smells fishy - but i'll persevere .. :) hehe |
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Yeah I've seen pi. i liked that syntax inbetween the number business - too true.. sweet .. i'll have a look around! |
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The counter example I think i have to try and refute is that its possible for someone (in theory) to be unsure of being unsure of being unsure of being unsure - ad. infinitum ?! |
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sure u will leave him cryin like a poor fool prayin for some more of your illuminating knowledge... That credulous way of reasoning will send someone like me straight to a deep nihilistic state of mind... |
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PATERNS EMERGE |
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If you take credulism seriously? how seriously - as a certainty - then i've got him by the scruff of his neck .. but I'll see what I can come up with :) it sucks that language undermines it all |
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So - what sort of philosophy do you do - what stage you at? under grad, post grad ??? |
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Third year student Two more to go Whatabautya? |
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But I NEVER go to class I prefer the uni library First hand allways best than someone's thoughts bout someone's thoughts |
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Shit that's one heck of an undergrad - spose its nice and thorough .. 3rd year also - tho i finish in half a year .. that's the way the system here works. Tho in all honesty, with hons, i'll be finished in 1 and a half years .. main interest continental philosophy, tho i don't mind dabbling in a bit of logic (doing intro to meta-logic at the moment) and did a bit of ethics in the past, but i've given up on that concept :) |
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I don't know .. i actually don't find reading appealing in and of itself, its a bit of a struggle at times, so it's quite nice to sit back and listen - also, with some of the contemporary french stuff I reckon, I need at least the lecture to guide me through the text a little, dunno - |
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ok, here's one from me for today "the most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. it is the source of all true art and science" this one is by albert einstein |
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Logic's cool Also Logic Audio Next year I will get into Diffuse Logic. Sounds cool. And bout "the Continentals", I can´t take them seriously. With hons, I would already finished... 2 much dope n beer n aphex n grrrls... But hey, that's what we're here 4 |
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eh? sweet as, yeah, logic audio is pretty cool hehe, so is fuzzy logic by the sounds of it .. mmm .. yes and no about taking them seriously, i think they are talking about the same thing (at least recent stuff) the analytic approach is tackling, just different ways to go about it. |
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Anyway I gotta cruise man .. catch ya round Logic to me is a little dry, so I prefer to deal with the the waffly hyperbole :) |
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Ants united can tie down a lion. -Ethiopian proverb |
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Korben, i followed your link. U R A FREAK: Artist description bob Music style bob Musical influences James, Booth/Brown, Hawtin, Paap, Hecker, Fakesh/de Luca, Herren Similar Artists bob Artist history bob Bob Group members bob Instruments bob |
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Ahh.. i smell good ol Karl :) |
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hep - ok then :) |
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kor - ok |
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A music based one for you....and frustratingly true: "Simplicity is deceptively complex" |
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Ants united can tie down a lion. -Ethiopian proverb/The Karl Marx version of some childrens book :) |
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Ha, ha. No mate; the struggle of the oppressed has gone on for thousands of years without the Great One's influence. |
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