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im off to watch blade runner again right now :-) |
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harrison ford ;-) |
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awesome movie P.K.D. was the master of cyber punk |
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I just read the book and watched the movie. Honestly I didn't get the movie...it had some good moments but it was wierder than the book, but less enjoyable, and left out a lot of things that were totally essential to the plot of the book. dunno how I feel about it...Do Androids Dream of Electric sheep wasn't about cyberpunk at all really |
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if you want cybver punbk read neuromancer if you haven't already... best thing about bladerunner movie is the soundtrack - vangelis fucking kicks james horners ass. |
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Definitely one of my fave Sci-fi films, when I was little, I found it too dark & scary, but now I really appreciate the atmosphere of the flick. A true classic. |
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um..actually PKD was not cyberpunk..he predates it and is an obvious inpiration..the city and look was Ridley Scott and Syd Mead..obviously inspired by early William Gibson's descriptions of the Sprawl.. |
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pretty good movie-tho i don't like mr. harrison too much but i like rutger hauer a lot and miss hannah ofcourse hehe |
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which version is your favourite? |
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how many are there? |
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Directors cut and the Orignial The Director's cut is with the Harisson Ford narrating and has a few more scenes that hint at Harrison Ford being a Cyborg as well (He dreams of Unicorns)..plus it does not have the happy ending saying that Rachel(i think) will live forever as they ride through green pastures... |
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That should read..without the voiceover narration..sorry. |
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btw i just saw a nice kiddy movie fast and furious its called |
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it might've been directors cut but i haven't seen it for a while now, so i can't be sure |
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Blade Runner is very good movie. One of the few movies I've bought. The directors cut has what the original was missing... |
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oh details details EXCUUUUSE ME! he may not be cyberpunk be the exact definition... but he was such an influence on it, that I call him cyberpunk |
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i love it its deffinately in my all time top 10 favorite movies. FSOL uses the Sample from "rachel's song" off the blade runner soundtrack brilliantly in "My Kingdom" |
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i own the directors cut DVD it's just a classic film, very dark and atmospheric and harrison is da BOMB! ruger hauer is also a person fav actor of mine....have you seen him in THE HITCHER......one hellva scary movie!! |
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i wish rdj would redo blade runners soundtrack when they re release it on dvd. not to disparage vangelis, i'd just like to see an update. plus this movies got one of the best closing scenes/soliloqui's ever. |
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fucking great movie. i really enjoyed the book, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"... |
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So is Deckard an android or not? |
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I mean replicant. |
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yes. if you have the directors cut this fact is hinted at. and Philip K Dick is NOT cyberpunk. |
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So it is not hinted in the novel? |
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ridley scott admitted it in an interview somewhere...give me a year to dig it up |
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i honestly can't remember as i haven't read it in years and just watched the movie yesterday. |
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I haven't read it for a while, and can't remember either... I know the novel is quite different to the film. |
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in the movie, androids have pre programmed dreams and memories. one of deckards dreams is of a unicorn, and at the end of the movie, a policeman places a piece of origami in the shape of a unicorn on a table. i think this is the thing that ridley scott inserted to hint at deckards true persona. |
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a great movie.... I have the director's cut and the original, both on VHS... tho I should get the dvd |
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wait before you do. a revamped edition is supposed to come out soon. |
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the beauty is in the details Zeus.. Philip K Dick is NOT cyberpunk..his mileau is too vast..only a few of his ideas inspired this specific genre we call cyberpunk... |
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thats what i said. william gibson was cyberpunk. anyway, dicks book takes place in a farmland, and scott purposely made the movie in a more "effective" environment. |
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huhuhuhu, you look at dick books. |
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looks like you brought your A-game tonight. |
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dick's book tok place in the same place as the movie. not on a farm. william gibson had never heard of phillip k dyck until cpmparrison's were drawn between the two authors after the 84 release of neuromancer. syd mead was mildly influenced by william gibson's short stories in omni as well as other scifi mags. syd mead is a futurist. philip k dyck is a futurist. william gibson created cyberpunk and still is th best author of the genre. the directors cut featured a redone soundtrack by vangelis, removed deckard's voice over and had extra footage, including a different ending. in this version itis implied that deckard is more human than human. the origianl did not. the book also implied this, yet followed a different path that ridley scott chose to avoid. if you havve read the book you will understand how the transaltion from book to screen would be near impossible. pkd kiscks arse. wg kicks arse rs kicks arse. bladerunner is my fav movie ever! ta da! |
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+william gibson had never heard of phillip k dyck until cpmparrison's were drawn between the two authors after the 84 release of neuromancer. + I have a lot difficulty beleiving that...if Gibson claims that..then he's a lying cunt |
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One of my favourite movie quotes are in that film.. "It's a shame she won't live... but then again who does?" Right? |
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Me too... Neuromancer has a bunch of classical PKD scenes... God that book is GOOOOD. |
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its given away at the end when he has the unicorn "flashback" and when the cop leaves a tiny tinfoil unicorn behind when he leaves his house at the end I suspect we are all replicants... |
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Not me, bro, I am a demon from hell itself. |
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Hey Kids! I know you're all up about Ridley Scott and Mr. Dick and that Greek guy with the Fairlight CMI, but... Get ready to knock BR down a notch when Chris Cunningham and RDJ finally get around to finishing Neuromancer!!! I gave up following their progress (they had a show together in the UK, a mixed media installation, which would suggest the level of distraction and casual tangent they operate under) but I'm sure it will happen eventually... Any rumours out there? |
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did this film for media and watched about 20 times without ever getting bored of it, and i can still watch it now, and that is a huge thing to me cos i get bored of stuff so quick. and ridley said he was in a documentary, but people like to leave it open and there are loads of facts and bits and stuff all over the place |
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It's weird but the closing scenes of bladerunner always make me want to cry, although I'm not the crying in films type... Does it did this to anyone else? |
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WG isn't a lying cunt. he is well read. and imaginative. PKD was influenced by the same authors as gibson, an dif yoaur einto literature and have read the two, you will see that both writing styles are so disimilar, that if the sci-fi element weren't there, the nyou would never compare one to the other. WG is a much better writer by far. read Moore. read zammyatin. read plato. read huxley. read orwell. those are WG s influences>you will see paralells in more than just thier sci-fi content/mentality. PKD is good, and so was tolkien and adams, but they miss the mark when up against gibson. |
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Dood.........how could you NOT cry at the end.....it was so PURRFECT!! the dove being released from the dead replicants hand just moments after he saved his assigned killer. rudger hauer is just beautiful in the movie.....i watched the directors cut DVD tonight......and ahhhhhhhhh ohhh and lets not forget ze moosic!! |
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yeah, I liked this movie... I bought the soundtrack the other day, and it's fantastic... really captures the feel of a futuristic environment well I think... I love the vocal snippets mixed in to... I don't find they get in the way either... I feel that they act like another instrument in a way... especially the final track, that vocal part along with the music is so touching... great stuff!! |
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Bladerunner is my fav movie. I agree, the ending was very emotional. with perfect music to fit the scene. thanks to vangelis. after buying the soundtrack, i heard lots of songs that never made it into the film. these songs are spectacular, the album itself is a mesh of detective music and sci fi space music. If you enjoyed Vangelis' works in that, check out hos.com Hearts of space always has some of his stuff. Time to die... can you believe that the original version of bladerunner never got released on dvd, what a let down.. |
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well zaphod, i have to disagree.. at first i thought the unicorn dream and the oragami unicorn meant that dekard was a replicant. but then i saw it another way. rachel was the last one left, she was the last unicorn. "its a shame she wont live long, but then again, who does.." all the facts are there. or maybe ridley made it this way so you could gather either one of these theries. |
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FANTASTIC FANTASTIC movie. |
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Blade Runner is my favourite movie too. The last lines Rutger Hauer says are so fucking sad that it brings a tear to my eyes everytime I hear them. |
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