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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 12:01 [#00345495]
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Since most radio stations are told what to play by the record companies your choice is limited and often pop music is farmed for the standard buyer. (EMI want money and they control most of what is played, most your pop CDs in the UK will either have EMI or BMI stamped on it. Go check.) If the music industry was open and less corrupt then you would have a more open environment for others music. Based on sales and airplay? I don't know or care. I just wondered one day why the charts were full of shite.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 12:04 [#00345497]
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Thing is, airplay dictates what a lot of people (esp. young teens) buy, whoever convinces the radio to play a track ahs a huge increase in sales as a result...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:08 [#00345500]
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guys, guys, we are not going to start another of those sordid political agruments, are we?
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2002-08-12 12:09 [#00345501]
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the so -called "indie charts" (which ran in nme) were better, they covered small record shops....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 12:14 [#00345503]
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That's the problem with democracy- most people are fools ;)
(Sorry Meho)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:21 [#00345505]
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Sorry? Why are you sorry? I agree with that and I never liked democracy anyway.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 12:25 [#00345510]
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Turning it into a political debate ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:25 [#00345511]
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you are right there i belive it takes some years for quality music to be noticed
i don't think many ppl will remember in a few years time what was on top of charts this year
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 12:27 [#00345513]
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I can't remember now! }:)
Some sort of chart on here would be cool but I'd have no idea how you would go about doing that.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:27 [#00345515]
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this was ment to be a followup to jedi chris
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:27 [#00345516]
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OK, let it just be said that most of the worthless pop music that you hate when it's a current hit, you hear some 10 years later and you get all soft and mushy....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:30 [#00345518]
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chart like that would be a great thing for people that like this kind of music
i mean, since im on this mb i discovered many great new musicians
a chart would make it much easier
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:31 [#00345520]
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you think that will ever happen with you and britney hehe
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:33 [#00345521]
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Yeah, definitely. I mean, I hated A-HA and NKOTB when they were around, but today when I haer them on the radio/ tv, it's good ol' days all over again.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 12:38 [#00345524]
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I know what you mean. Even the most cynical of us is affected by nostalgia.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:41 [#00345527]
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And especially as you get older. Look at me, I'm 31 and it shows.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 12:44 [#00345530]
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It's only now that I'm starting to think about stuff 10 years ago and to think that it seemed like it was only yesterday I was listening to Oasis and playing NES games...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:48 [#00345531]
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totaly agree but, i mean if a new pop album is released not many critics would compare it to nkotb music
on the other hand if a new electronic album is released many would compare it to rdj(or any other of that kind) early music
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:49 [#00345532]
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See? And it gets worse with age. Shit, I used to play games on ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 some 18 years ago.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:49 [#00345533]
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btw, i like nkotb :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:50 [#00345534]
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same here there were some pretty good games back then
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:50 [#00345535]
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Uhm, you lost me there mate. What were we talking about, again?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:51 [#00345536]
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Oh, yeah, definitely. Sabre Wulf ruled supreme...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:51 [#00345537]
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its more as a reply to jedi chris hehe
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:53 [#00345539]
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ah, OK, OK. Atic Atac was pure gold too.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:55 [#00345540]
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either you have a great memory, or you were a geme fanatic back then
i can't remember any names hehe
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-12 12:55 [#00345541]
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At the moment? Ms. Dynamite. And just wait for the new one.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:56 [#00345542]
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Both. Knight Lore, Head over Heels, Turbo Esprit, Tomahawk, Highway Encounter... Ahh, those were the days...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-08-12 12:58 [#00345543]
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i remeber it took a while to load up a game hehe
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 12:59 [#00345544]
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Ahh, Mr. Jones, always a pleasure.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:00 [#00345545]
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Yeah, it was painful, especially when multi-load games started appearing in the '85 or something.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 13:00 [#00345546]
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Ha ha, I wrote to rare requesting the atic atac rom the other day. My dad and I mapped out the entire game on a4 paper selotaped together. My original (legal) tape sadly no longer works...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:02 [#00345548]
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It was a great game, wasn't it?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:06 [#00345550]
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I have the original of that on tape at home. I love my 128k ZX Spectrum 2+, BBC Micro, Amiga 500+, Amiga 600, etc.
I'm not a materialistic person at all am I?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:10 [#00345551]
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No, you're a sad person like the rest of us who prefers spending time playing computer games to interacting with "real" people. I know I do. Just completed Half Life yesterday and I feel like I've lost a good friend
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 13:11 [#00345552]
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I loved the secret passages altering depending on which character you were- and the parts of the key were always in different places. I knew one person who completed it, but I never managed to get all three key parts- only 2...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:14 [#00345556]
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Oh I get about still Meho. ;)
I know that feeling of emptiness when you complete a game tho. The feeling normally comes from your stomach as in your bedroom ridden state of trance in front of the console or computer you suddenly realize you forgot to eat, drink, sleep or anything else for 3 days at a time.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:15 [#00345557]
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Yeah, fucking hell, those games were so difficult back then. Completing them without cheats (the infamous "pokes") was almost impossible. I never ever completed the sordid Sabre Wulf either. I got all four parts of the medal once but got killed before I found the way out. It was 2 years ago. I'll give it another shot soon...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:15 [#00345558]
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The guy whom drew my avatar completed Manic Minor. I couldn't get off the first screen! :/
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:17 [#00345560]
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Well, I rarely have more than 2 or 3 hours to play in a row, too many obligations... The last game that did it to me (except for half life, of course but that's old news, the fucker is 4 years old and still the best FPS ever) was Aliens vs Predator 2. The marine mission just glued me to the screen.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:18 [#00345561]
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Fuck, I could never get past the fourth screen. How the hell did he do it?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:22 [#00345564]
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I have no idea, I was geeked when he told me. He is quite a character himself tho and certainly wouldn't make anything like that up. I told him there must be some sort of certificate for that kind of achievement. He is a very determined guy.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:28 [#00345569]
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Damn it, and what about Jet set Willy? Now, that game was TOUGH.
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Archrival
on 2002-08-12 13:31 [#00345575]
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Cam'Ron - Oh Boy (im feelin the beat)
and hmmmmm cant think of anything else...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-12 13:32 [#00345576]
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I've completed every screen (seperatley) of manic miner w/o cheats. It's my ambition to complete it start to end w/o saves/cheats one day. I consider manic miner to be the "purest" platform game ever. I love it.
Meho:
JSW was stupidly hard, very good game though. I don't think it (or its sequels) were as "tight" as the original- it seemed to buggy/glitchy to me.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:33 [#00345577]
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He took a chunk out of them but I don't think he finished them. I love those games, Disco Dan was another or something? I don't recall. My mind is set in a 2D gaming environment. I can't play most 3D games and enjoy them as much as 2D retro side scrollers.
I even made a few 2D games in one of those game creator packages trying to soak up that retro feel. The music in them was Grind and Death most of the time tho.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 13:40 [#00345590]
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mmm...you made me feel all nostalgic mentioned all those UltimatePlayTheGame speccy classics...don't think I've ever finished KnightLore but did SabreWulf & Atic-Atac...
And Jetpac & it's sequal were excellent as well..
fuck, there were so many good games goin on then...and so cheap compared to today (even tho I had a scam going on with a local video shop that meant I got everything for a £1...)...
Jet Set Willy...never finished that (apart from a highly poked version...)...
Shall I be EVIL & kill your afternoons by giving you this link...http://www.spectrum.lovely.net/ .... let's you play all those old spectrum games on a webpage...check the games at the bottom of that page...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 13:49 [#00345599]
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Holy shit, Jand, you just terminated every chance of me doing any work here, ever. Skool Daze, OMG!!!!!!
I have completed Knight Lore, poked, naturally... But, yeah, Jet Pac and it's sequel (what the fuck was it called, something like Jetman or something) were excellent.... Ahh the old days...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-12 14:01 [#00345615]
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hehe...:)...should keep y'all busy for a while...
I've been extra good today and am getting a load of work done for a change (big big deadline approaching and I'm like 10yrs behind...)...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-08-12 14:04 [#00345620]
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Well, for my part, I haven't been working at all today, except for some phonecalls.... Life is good. DJ /Rupture in my CD player and the world looks nice...
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