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offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-12 04:14 [#00345208]
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"...the ram, by nature, is a wild and courageous animal,
lonely in lonely places, whereas when tamed and made to lie
down in green pastures, nothing is left but the docile,
cowardly, gregarious and succulent beast. This is the theory
of government." (Aleister Crowley)


 

offline Ubik from United States on 2002-08-12 05:06 [#00345239]
Points: 662 Status: Lurker



i understand the point he is trying to make, but the
language is romanticized nonsense....... why is the wild
animal "courageous" ?.... so without government men would be
more courageous... you would still have the aggressive
assholes forcing their will on others, stealing and fucking
people over either way, with government or without. is he
trying to say that it would be better if all the meek just
died?


 

offline outside_ninja from ninjaland (I touch no-one and on 2002-08-12 08:38 [#00345351]
Points: 462 Status: Addict | Followup to Ubik: #00345239



No, he is saying that Governments rule by making the
populace obedient and that their goal is to abuse people,
not to help them.

Courageous people stand up to "aggresive assholes", who are
usually in the minority. And yes, without government, humans
would be more courageous, because Governments rule by fear.

And I don't see how you could extract "it would be better if
all the meek just died" Maybe you misdefined some of his
terms.

And a metaphor is very often poetic. It would be a dreary
world without. Oh, and if the language was nonsense, how did
you understand the point? I guess it DID make sense after
all.


 


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