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hey! anyone ever noticed somethin...?: all the older video game music (NES in particular) had high musical composition quality w/ minimal utilities (i.e. about 5 NES sound synth channels/oscillators). however, regarding the music in the newer video games, the sound itself is preset & has higher quality than the NES, but lower in quality of musical composition. in other words, the people who made the music apparently had fewer utilities & had to make the most of them to make the music, as with newer vid games, the sound utilities enabled higher sound quality but w/ less emphasis on musical composition. heh. i guess my theorem can be applied to the distinction between rich, so-called "musicians" who have lots of equipment but no talent and those more "minimalistic" artists of lower financial status who have considerable talent. i guess this is a bit of a generali[s/z]ation, but can anyone relate to this? |
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I know what you are saying, but the thing you fail to realise is that it is the record companys who decide what is in games nowadays. Thus removing the geeky music dude from the picture. I work in the video game industry and have watched the demise of the geeky music guy. |
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They can just rely on glossy loud guitars and big beats now. No need for catchy melodies and pretty harmonies with any real character. Listen to the old Mario games, Sonic the Hedgehog, Mega Man, Metroid, Castelvania (ESPECIALLY Castlevania)... some great tracks there, that you'll NEVER forget if you've heard them. Now, louder=better... just turn those amps up and use some cheesy metal riff... or just milk tired techno beats for all they're worth. Boom, you've got a soundtrack tailor made for the stupid people with no attention span. RPGs have great music, still... but I find even THEY'RE falling in quality... I can't really remember much from FF10, but FF6 will always be floating through my head. |
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yah but u reali[s/z]e it cos u work in the industry, right? |
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bump.... I totally agree with you pachi... I have hummed sonic songs and bubble bopple songs all my life.... there was some EXTREME talent with those old skool musicians |
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you guys are right. |
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i like old school vid/game music, i actually recorded some of it and have brnd it on disc, i totally agree w/ ya on how we have all this kick ass stuff now, but no games like we did back then. 3d is cool, but i still like platforms/sidescrollers, i'd love to see one now with lotsa detail etc. those games just rule, i'm sick of shooters... |
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i totally agree w/ ophecks... |
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FF6 had the best music as well as Crono Trigger. |
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zelda(s) on NES, contra had cool action music, metroid,mario bros., not to mention tons of titles on sega genisis and snes. maybe the limitations at the time weren't such bad things |
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it's never too late to incorporate great musical composition into the music of tomorrow's video games =) |
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FFX is up there for recent compositions in a game. Ophecks see if these 3 songs give you a refresher course: Wandering Flame Forest of Macalaniya Scorching Sands(might be labeled Desert instead of sands) I believe all 3 songs are composed by Masashi Hamauzu(SaGa Frontier 2 fame) and are probably the best songs in the game IMO. RPG's do have great music....ahhh Secret of Mana and SOM+ |
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SOM+? is that the playstation remake? or seiken densetsu 3? |
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Yeah. WWW.MP3.com/IMAGINARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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music in old video games was much better than music in most of the new ones... look at donkey kong for example, on snes the music was cool, on n64 it's heavy and annoying... -_- (fortunately, there are some exceptions...!) |
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SOM+ is a music CD. It's a various mix of songs from Seiken Denetsu 2 and 3. If you can find it, I'd say defintely check it out. It's on www.gamemusic.com |
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I'll check them out, thanks... but FF10 really let me down... the characters were pretty boring... I miss badasses like Cloud and Squall. The music was pretty good, but didn't really stick in my head... but it wasn't bad at all. Zelda, of course, fucking GREAT melodies, forgot to mention that one. Mega Man 2 for NES... now THAT'S some great music! Metal Man just kicks ass, and the the Fire guy has IDM in his stage, almost! Pounding beats. |
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does anyone remember alex the kidd for the sega master system,as for some warped reason i still know the tune perfectly,even though i havnt heard/played since when it came out[probably over ten years]. alex,GET THE FUCK OUT MY HEAAAD!!!!! |
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Yeah, Donkey Kong Country for SNES has some GREAT chill out music, really nice naturey sounding ambient stuff. Underrated soundtrack! |
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The days of original music in games is gone, I am sorry to say. |
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Well, Tidus in FFX wasn't a badass, but Auron sure as hell was. Even more so than Cloud and Squall. Yeah, they're are some many great tunes out there, but it's so hard to remember them all, after playing games nonstop over the years. I'm telling ya, www.rocketbaby.net is the place for information on videogame composers. |
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Yep, I've been humming the bubble bobble soundrtrack for about 8 years now :) |
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Get a life!!! ;) |
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Get a knife!! ;) |
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Even better! :) |
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or maybe.. Get a Wife!! :) |
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This is getting silly, we'll be accused of topic hijacking!! ;) So, on that note - the Street Fighter music is the coolest!!! |
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ok ok... the sewer level (2nd) on Mario Bros. 1 are way cool... |
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Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike and Street Fighter Alpha had some awesome tunes. |
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i totally agree the quality of vg music as declined over the years, and its only getting worse, now a days they use rock/pop artists as background music, which is kind of sad actually, the real talented artists are the ones that specialize in vg music (i.e. capcom team, falcom team) if you want to d/l tons of snes vg music try this place, theres just sooo much... enjoy :) http://166.70.15.86/snesamp/ |
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The use of melody in a good way is probably the single most important characteristic to differentiate between good and bad. |
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Harry Gregson Williams did an amazing job on Metal Gear Solid 2... But it's Hollywood and overblown. It's just impossible to recapture the feel of older games, can't be done. Now music in a game sounds like music in a movie. Before, games had their own sound, the ''blips'' and ''bleeps'' and all. And even after that, on SNES and Genesis, it had its own character. Couldn't hear music like that anywhere else but on THAT system... Sega had an awful sound chip in the Genesis, so muffled, but it sounded pretty cool in some ways, and distinctive as fuck. |
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