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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:50 [#00341945]
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I'm sorry but all this talk of the US goverment and the middle east and different political issues is driving me up the wall.
I log on here to forget what a fucked up place this world is.
I dont nee dconstantly reminded that the world is run by a bunch of morons.
maybe i'm just to dumb to understand it all, but at least my ignorance keeps me happy!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:51 [#00341947]
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we need to be aware of politics
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:52 [#00341948]
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HereHere,WC! };>
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Clic
on 2002-08-08 17:52 [#00341953]
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On an Aphex Twin messageboard though?
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-08-08 17:53 [#00341954]
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theres nothing wrong w/ discussing a little politics and world issues here..... there are a lot of really smart people on this board who are fun to talk to!
...its racist bullshit that pissess me off
those threads were not a discussion about politics..... they were someone making some stupid comments that are impossible to discuess reasonably because they are irrational racist bullshit
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:53 [#00341955]
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not in britain we dont. ALL POLITICIANS ARE FULL OF SHIT.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-08-08 17:54 [#00341957]
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why not?
if we stop talking about politics we have to stop talking about anything else non related to music..... and thats NOT gonna happen ;)
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:54 [#00341958]
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(need to be aware of politics that is...)
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Clic
on 2002-08-08 17:57 [#00341967]
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Okay okay okay, You're right.
And I agree with you too. The racist shit is just ridiculous.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 17:58 [#00341971]
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yeah, i dont like the idea of racism at all.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-08-08 18:02 [#00341976]
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This thread reminds me of the Peoples front of Judea for some reason :D
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-08 18:04 [#00341979]
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You don't have to open all the political threads... It's just a few words on your screen if you don't open them. Many people here think it's interesting to talk about it...
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chesimone
from Ft Walton Beach (United States) on 2002-08-08 18:43 [#00342014]
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Racism is hatred of a person for the color of their skin. Racism is discrimination against people just on general principles because of their race.However, to be anti-Christian, or anti-Jewish is NOT racism!. It means you
are against the things for which the religious group stands,
for the actions they take which are opposed to your own beliefs. If a group, any religious group, is doing evil, cruel things to another group, it is NOT evil, and NOT racism to be anti that group. It is good to be anti any group that does evil things!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-08 18:44 [#00342015]
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do you know who aphex twin is?
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2002-08-08 18:45 [#00342021]
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What about dividing the xltronic MB into a "music" and "non-music" section? Is that a good idea?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-08-08 18:47 [#00342022]
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or how about more moderators... so there is always one online...
so when this shit starts happening... they can just be banned
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electro
from detroit on 2002-08-08 18:57 [#00342028]
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here here zeus
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Clic
on 2002-08-08 19:03 [#00342034]
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Heh, I asked him the same question in another thread.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 19:36 [#00342076]
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we don't need to be aware of politics in britain?
that's such shit
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 19:37 [#00342077]
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yes because most music topics on every artist have been covered probably twice, so yeah, even on an aphex board. It's a community not just about aphex but the people who are in it
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Clic
on 2002-08-08 19:42 [#00342083]
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I already said that I understood.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 19:57 [#00342100]
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I think it's good to discuss stuff outside of AFX....we're all people leading real lives (or "3D" lives as an old flame would've put it) and we can learn a lot from each other...we may not always agree on things but that's all part of a good discussion...
I was chuffed to see how well everyone handled that trolly chesmione character....the only good way to handle racism is to confront it & don't let it go unchallenged...
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-08 21:01 [#00342187]
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Yeah come on people. I mean really... this is aphextwin.nu.... If I want to hear about politics I can watch CNN....you know. Everybody is going to have different beliefs on politics. So its not something people will agree on fully. Its true people need to be informed about it, and that it is good to talk about different things. But not by a biased or one sided person. And the news usually trys not to be one sided most of the time... but no doubt the news lies... but then where are we going to hear about new events in the world. And the media can not censor all of it... so some of it is bound to be true.
I hate politics... its all corrupt... people in high places all over the world are idiots... except for a handful. So lets try and keep the political threads to a minimum.. .... please
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 21:03 [#00342191]
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i'm not saying we need to talk about aphex all the time. just try and keep it a bit more positive and light hearted as opposed to talking about politics.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-08 21:06 [#00342195]
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A intellectual conversation about politics is not wrong, it opens your mind to other peoples thoughts...I did that and 2 people called me insulting names, but it didnt stop me because they are the ingnorant ones....Eventhough most of the threads are attacking the US Government, its still something we can learn from eachother
But then I say that those threads shouldnt come off as an attack, just conversation.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-08-08 21:08 [#00342198]
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i like hearing about politics on here. I hardly watch tv anyways so I dont hear about all the stupid things these politicians are doing so I get some from here.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-08-08 21:11 [#00342203]
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Most people here I think take conversation as an attack in general..... because they feel emotional about what they are talking about... so when someone disagrees....they feel attacked.... I am all for conversation... but when people are just spamming what they could have heard on CNN that night(*cough*flea*cough*) its kinda ridiculous. But then agian I am the mouse who spams spice girls lyrics... but at least people dont start flame wars about them......... yet
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-08 21:13 [#00342205]
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I personally dont take anything said online or in my face by complete strangers personal.....I'm talking about the threads where people are directly speaking about the US Governemnt.
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diablo
on 2002-08-08 21:19 [#00342212]
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You have to be aware of Politics... It's the only way to keep Govts in check. If everyone ignored it (actually most people do) Politians would / do get away with all sorts. Then again, i've never voted. Am I a hypocrite or what? I just can't bring myself to vote for any of 'em.
But you should still be aware of what decisions are being made on your behalf.
Oh and listen to Dead Kennedys!
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-08-08 21:27 [#00342217]
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I feel threatened by the US government and I'm affraid of the consequences of their actions that's why many of us non-US people tend to react aggressive towards it and it's followers.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-08 21:34 [#00342225]
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Well I'm not saying I feel completely safe towards the US Government, I dont think anyone protects me but myself, but there is a sense of I know who I am and I can stand right outside the White House and know those people are protecting me, But its one thing to insult people like me cause all of you are from Europe, and its another to understand as an American citizen things are just different for me.
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diablo
on 2002-08-08 21:37 [#00342226]
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Are they protecting you by arresting you for smoking pot?
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diablo
on 2002-08-08 21:38 [#00342227]
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That was a cheap jibe wasn't it!
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-08 21:44 [#00342229]
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cheap jibe....cheap jibe
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-08 21:47 [#00342233]
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"if you can be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you can be told what say and think. protect your constitutionally protected rights."
sorry. just thought it would sound kinda deep.
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-08-08 22:03 [#00342263]
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I don't like discussing politics because it's too depressing. I like music and fun conversation more
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2002-08-08 22:05 [#00342268]
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yeah...those conversations dont go anywhere...I've had my share too.
That poor poor child
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-08-09 01:18 [#00342447]
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aw come on there were about five "political" threads out of several thosand last night..maybe you are pissed off because they were the most frequently posted to as compared to the rest...well people will post to whatever they want to post to..there were plenty of musical threads...like laserbeak said..they are just a few words on your screen until you click and unravel them..just avoid the compulsion to do so next time...
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Apt_Zet
from Afghanistan on 2002-08-09 03:00 [#00342519]
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When you say you come here to forget about that stuff I can understand. I was in the UK less then 2 years ago it is very different in terms of open political discussions. I watch foreign news to get real news. Stuff just isn't covered in america and some people may only hear of topics like this in places like this. It's unfortunate. In the end I think it's a good thing. I'm not to crazy about it when things turn into a name calling match though.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-09 08:28 [#00342676]
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If you don't like political topics don't click on them? C'mon, I love to hear about world issues as much as I like to hear about Aphex Twin. Don't try to lay ground rules cuz it will blow up. (I've seen this many times before) just get over it, It's not really that bad.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 08:51 [#00342691]
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Yeah I agree, just post on topics that interest you and if people post on other ones, that's obviously what they would rather talk about.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-08-09 09:10 [#00342714]
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Why post a thread telling people that they shouldn't discuss issues that have an enormous impact on their lives? I could post a thread saying that anally retentive music trainspotters posting topics on their 'top ten Autechre tracks listened to on a Wednesday afternoon when the wind is blowing in an easterly direction' depress me ("oh lord, tell me humanity has not plummeted to such depths of inaneness") but I won't.
Leave us all alone and don't act like the Thought Police. As many have said: "You don't like? Don't read".
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-09 09:15 [#00342721]
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i love the politacl threads on this mb...there's a whole world of ppl here all comign from diffrent countries, all with extreamly diffrent views on mine.
Have you ever heard of the butterfly effect? Basically, the quote goes like this: the meer flappign of a buterfly's wings can destroy a galaxy millions of light years away.
IT's because of this that we must take notice of everything we can; no matter how off topic, or insignificant it may seem.
How are we sure that london won't be bonbed by the terrorists, and that rdj himself get in his tank and romps dwn to afganistan? (really far fetched...but i need a laugh). See, we need to keep up on these things. :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:10 [#00342784]
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"i love the politacl threads on this mb...there's a whole world of ppl here all comign from diffrent countries, all with extreamly diffrent views on mine. "
Spot on. I like seeing other peoples POVs and esp. reading what their media says. One of my UK mates had an e-mail friend in kosovo and they compared notes on what their respective medias said. V. different stories...
Re: RDJ joining in. That'd be nuts. It'd be cool to have rich as some post apocalyptic leader driving through the burnt out streets of london in his armoured car, mad max stylee :)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-08-09 10:13 [#00342791]
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a hommie in kosovo, eh? that should have been pretty interesting to chat with.
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