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Think Gantz Graf sucked?
 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:39 [#00327774]
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We'll your probably right. I feel sorry for the people who
paid money for this.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:43 [#00327778]
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>=(

i liked it and, being the cheap-ass i am, skamming off slsk,
i got it for free! therefore i am still right.

>=)


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:44 [#00327779]
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How does one actually enjoy such a song? Is there some sort
of drug I dont know about that makes listening to Autechre
feel like a hand job?

I'm sorry but this song is not listenable. I dont give a
fuck how technical it is or how many fucking different
rhythems they stack up, it sucks. Not enjoyable, sounds like
shit. That is why Aphex Twin is far superior. He has
melodys, chords, AND complex beats. And he makes it sound so
fucking beautiful you'd think you died and went to heaven.

(my $0.02)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-28 06:44 [#00327782]
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hahaha, pachi you are so funny!

i havent heard it but so far I've heard mixed reviews...? =x


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327784]
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I'm glad you didn't pay for it pachi.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327785]
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to each their own


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327787]
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yeah, from what AE I've heard, thats also the impression I
get.

I do think Aphex Twin is far superior.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:46 [#00327789]
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*takes the $0.02 and runs, putting them on my eyes*


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-07-28 14:14 [#00327991]
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I liked Grantz Graf. I dont think its a matter of whether or
not its good. I think its more a matter of some people being
more closed minded than others.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 14:36 [#00327994]
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This from the person who said Druqks was a piece of shit. I
suppose it is a matter of personal preference but I'm with
weathered, this is shit, druqks is great.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-07-28 14:49 [#00327997]
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Gantz Graf isnt good, because it sounds like a cheap
Drumloop, filtrerd thru a few Reaktor presets......Confield
was a masterpiece, Gantz Graf is not !


 

offline doctorvee from Kirkcaldy (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 14:52 [#00327999]
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This is real pretentious... but... don't think of it as a
song! Think of it as art. Yeah.

Shall I hide? :/

I really like Gantz Graf. It's like a big long journey, like
music should be.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-28 15:12 [#00328011]
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i hope i can get the cd+dvd pack from regular stores or
barnes & noble's web site cos i don't feel like it's worth
me ordering overseas from warpmart at their prices.


 

offline doctorvee from Kirkcaldy (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 15:15 [#00328014]
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I think Warpmart is cheap.... Are the overseas postage rates
huge then?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 16:00 [#00328032]
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what a stupid discussion.

I thought the whole discussion about "what is music and what
isn't"would'nt surface on an msgboard about electronic
music. jesus.

to say gantz graf isn't music is just such a close-minded
dumb thing to say. its like nsync fans saying afx isn't
music. unblock your ears. just because its rhytmically
challenging, doesn't have a melody doesn't mean it isn't
music.

this makes me sad.


 

offline neurone from orleans (France) on 2002-07-28 16:31 [#00328055]
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hahaha !
It's fun because I'm sure that in about one month or two,
few of you who says gantz graf sucks will came here and
create a topic like 'oh gantz graf is really good, oh I
didn't get this, oh I didn't hear that, oh You have to
listen 30 times to it, oh wel nananah...'


 

offline neurone from orleans (France) on 2002-07-28 16:36 [#00328058]
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actually there is melody in it.
the thing is, the melody just jump from one sound to another
like i'ts not made by the sounds but by their fast echoes
and so it... it.. euh.... what the fuck I'm trying to
explain ??
nevermind.
anyway,if you expect ae to make afx music, you'll sure won't
like it.



 

offline Apt_Zet from Afghanistan on 2002-07-28 16:54 [#00328083]
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"I dont give a fuck how technical it is..."

So your just out to hate it?

I think it is great and really enjoy listening to it.


 

offline Bremzen from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 16:55 [#00328086]
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I'm with Lurker and qrter.

"I'm sorry but this song is not listenable......it
sucks."
Weatheredstoner, I'm really happy for you.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 17:45 [#00328144]
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It's the worst Autechre I've ever heard... but not bad. I
mean, this is AUTECHRE... for anyone else, it would probably
be their best work.

But I've given this album ample opportunity to grow on me,
to ''understand'' it, but it isn't happening. It's merely
OK.

I'm not interested in the DVD.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 18:01 [#00328156]
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thats true, there is a kind of melody in there.



 

offline Resident Evil from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-28 18:10 [#00328168]
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Wow! I can't believe this!

When I first learnt of Autechre basically everyone said they
were really great, so because of this I bought Amber and
LP5. At first I didn't like them, maybe one or two tracks.
After a few months I still didn't really like them, but I
kinda liked some more tracks. And slowly it kept working on
me. About 5 months ago I got really into the albums and I'm
at a point where I would say I love them. When I first heard
Gantz Graf I absolutely loved it. I must say I am surprised
at all the flack it is getting. But atleast it shows pretty
much everyone here likes what they like, not going 'Ah new
Autechre, well I love them so I gotta like this even if I
really dont'.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-28 18:27 [#00328181]
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you're not interested in the dvd?! you don't like music
videos or what?

doctorvee: yea warpmart UK->US shipping is enormous. it's
not justifiable either cos warp's prices are only "ok", not
good (by my standards). so far there hasn't been anything
offered by warpmart that i haven't been able to get cheaper
on bn.com (barnes & noble - best prices and free shipping)
or record label site (hefty and tigerbeat6 for example).


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 18:32 [#00328189]
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I liked gantz graf immediately too. that doesn't happen that
often.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 18:36 [#00328191]
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No, not really... I don't like videos! They kind of ruin it
for me... I always picture the video in my head, and
INEVITABLY, it hurts the song in my head... just a personal
quirk. It's better for me NOT to see it, not matter how good
it is. Weird, but... true.



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 18:38 [#00328192]
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I wish I had NEVER seen Windowlicker... it's great, a
fantastic clip, but now I have trouble shaking the image of
those girls and the limo... I had my OWN image in my head
before the video, and now it's more annoying that I get
those unwanted visuals when I hear it... I don't like this
little ''defect'' of mine... :-/


 

offline GIR from Easton on 2002-07-28 19:47 [#00328267]
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people accusing you of being closeminded just because you
dislike a song is just as ignorant

confield was good,i didnt feel gantz graf though,amd i not
"cutting edge" anymore?

fucking euro-trash elitists

if you like it,awesome
if you dont, just as good


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 21:18 [#00328336]
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im more in it for the visual stuff. The visual is as
important as the audio for gantz graf. Without the vid,
gantz graf isnt that great, just seems a bit random, and
same with the video. Put them together, and it really hits
the spot.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-29 00:14 [#00328412]
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personally i didn't believe it really was autechre that made
gantz graf until it was confirmed. no i don't like it that
much, i don't get the point of the song. maybe it helps
seeing the video with it.

but the other two songs on the gantz graf ep are superb.
especially cap.iv but also dial. i don't think i'll have
wasted money when my copy arrives.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-29 02:03 [#00328574]
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I'm not saying someone is closed-minded for saying that they
don't like a piece of music.

I wrote that this thing of saying gantz graf "isn't music"
is 'closed-minded'.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:24 [#00329337]
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Gantz Graf.... fucking great on the right pair of speakers
really fucking loud!

You'll then appreciate your ears after that!

I really love Gantz Graf...so go easy on it lads, learn to
love it.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-07-29 17:28 [#00329345]
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im getting 2 copies of the dvd one for me and one for
^^^^^^^(one above)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:29 [#00329348]
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marry me thad. :)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:29 [#00329350]
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or dont, either way...
thanks a squillion! ;)


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-07-29 17:37 [#00329362]
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i only heard the track once at the warp bus tour in dublin
and, because of the video it blew me away. ...i must get it
now


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-07-29 17:42 [#00329367]
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shit i cant wait now


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-29 17:48 [#00329379]
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I don't really understand people saying that this is
unlistenable. It's harsh for sure ... but that's Ae of
late. What did you expect?

I'm quite thrilled with this release particularly Cap.IV.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-29 21:37 [#00329635]
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I enjoyed Confield. I found it new/interesting/refreshing
from all the other stuff i'd been listening too lately.

I'm not saying Gantz Graf is NOT music. It IS music, just
not good music. It gives me no emotion other than the fact
that It instills hate for the song in me.

I'm not closed minded, I dont expect for Autechre to make
Afx music. But I would like AE to make something that
instills wonder and emotion in me.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-29 21:38 [#00329641]
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I just watched the video, and while it's good, the music is
lacking. This just isn't prime Autechre. They can, and WILL,
do better.

Unlike previous reports, I did NOT begin to ''understand''
the song when I ''saw'' the song. I already understood it...
a 2nd rate composition by Booth and Brown.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-30 22:42 [#00331197]
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you suck..it rocks!!


 


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