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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:39 [#00327774]
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We'll your probably right. I feel sorry for the people who paid money for this.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:43 [#00327778]
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>=(
i liked it and, being the cheap-ass i am, skamming off slsk, i got it for free! therefore i am still right.
>=)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:44 [#00327779]
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How does one actually enjoy such a song? Is there some sort of drug I dont know about that makes listening to Autechre feel like a hand job?
I'm sorry but this song is not listenable. I dont give a fuck how technical it is or how many fucking different rhythems they stack up, it sucks. Not enjoyable, sounds like shit. That is why Aphex Twin is far superior. He has melodys, chords, AND complex beats. And he makes it sound so fucking beautiful you'd think you died and went to heaven.
(my $0.02)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-28 06:44 [#00327782]
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hahaha, pachi you are so funny!
i havent heard it but so far I've heard mixed reviews...? =x
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327784]
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I'm glad you didn't pay for it pachi.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327785]
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to each their own
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-07-28 06:45 [#00327787]
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yeah, from what AE I've heard, thats also the impression I get.
I do think Aphex Twin is far superior.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-07-28 06:46 [#00327789]
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*takes the $0.02 and runs, putting them on my eyes*
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-07-28 14:14 [#00327991]
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I liked Grantz Graf. I dont think its a matter of whether or not its good. I think its more a matter of some people being more closed minded than others.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 14:36 [#00327994]
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This from the person who said Druqks was a piece of shit. I suppose it is a matter of personal preference but I'm with weathered, this is shit, druqks is great.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-07-28 14:49 [#00327997]
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Gantz Graf isnt good, because it sounds like a cheap Drumloop, filtrerd thru a few Reaktor presets......Confield was a masterpiece, Gantz Graf is not !
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doctorvee
from Kirkcaldy (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 14:52 [#00327999]
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This is real pretentious... but... don't think of it as a song! Think of it as art. Yeah.
Shall I hide? :/
I really like Gantz Graf. It's like a big long journey, like music should be.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-28 15:12 [#00328011]
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i hope i can get the cd+dvd pack from regular stores or barnes & noble's web site cos i don't feel like it's worth me ordering overseas from warpmart at their prices.
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doctorvee
from Kirkcaldy (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 15:15 [#00328014]
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I think Warpmart is cheap.... Are the overseas postage rates huge then?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 16:00 [#00328032]
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what a stupid discussion.
I thought the whole discussion about "what is music and what isn't"would'nt surface on an msgboard about electronic music. jesus.
to say gantz graf isn't music is just such a close-minded dumb thing to say. its like nsync fans saying afx isn't music. unblock your ears. just because its rhytmically challenging, doesn't have a melody doesn't mean it isn't music.
this makes me sad.
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neurone
from orleans (France) on 2002-07-28 16:31 [#00328055]
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hahaha ! It's fun because I'm sure that in about one month or two, few of you who says gantz graf sucks will came here and create a topic like 'oh gantz graf is really good, oh I didn't get this, oh I didn't hear that, oh You have to listen 30 times to it, oh wel nananah...'
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neurone
from orleans (France) on 2002-07-28 16:36 [#00328058]
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actually there is melody in it. the thing is, the melody just jump from one sound to another like i'ts not made by the sounds but by their fast echoes and so it... it.. euh.... what the fuck I'm trying to explain ??
nevermind. anyway,if you expect ae to make afx music, you'll sure won't like it.
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Apt_Zet
from Afghanistan on 2002-07-28 16:54 [#00328083]
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"I dont give a fuck how technical it is..."
So your just out to hate it?
I think it is great and really enjoy listening to it.
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 16:55 [#00328086]
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I'm with Lurker and qrter.
"I'm sorry but this song is not listenable......it sucks."
Weatheredstoner, I'm really happy for you.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 17:45 [#00328144]
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It's the worst Autechre I've ever heard... but not bad. I mean, this is AUTECHRE... for anyone else, it would probably be their best work.
But I've given this album ample opportunity to grow on me, to ''understand'' it, but it isn't happening. It's merely OK.
I'm not interested in the DVD.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 18:01 [#00328156]
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thats true, there is a kind of melody in there.
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-07-28 18:10 [#00328168]
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Wow! I can't believe this!
When I first learnt of Autechre basically everyone said they were really great, so because of this I bought Amber and LP5. At first I didn't like them, maybe one or two tracks. After a few months I still didn't really like them, but I kinda liked some more tracks. And slowly it kept working on me. About 5 months ago I got really into the albums and I'm at a point where I would say I love them. When I first heard Gantz Graf I absolutely loved it. I must say I am surprised at all the flack it is getting. But atleast it shows pretty much everyone here likes what they like, not going 'Ah new Autechre, well I love them so I gotta like this even if I really dont'.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-07-28 18:27 [#00328181]
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you're not interested in the dvd?! you don't like music videos or what?
doctorvee: yea warpmart UK->US shipping is enormous. it's not justifiable either cos warp's prices are only "ok", not good (by my standards). so far there hasn't been anything offered by warpmart that i haven't been able to get cheaper on bn.com (barnes & noble - best prices and free shipping) or record label site (hefty and tigerbeat6 for example).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 18:32 [#00328189]
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I liked gantz graf immediately too. that doesn't happen that often.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 18:36 [#00328191]
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No, not really... I don't like videos! They kind of ruin it for me... I always picture the video in my head, and INEVITABLY, it hurts the song in my head... just a personal quirk. It's better for me NOT to see it, not matter how good it is. Weird, but... true.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-28 18:38 [#00328192]
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I wish I had NEVER seen Windowlicker... it's great, a fantastic clip, but now I have trouble shaking the image of those girls and the limo... I had my OWN image in my head before the video, and now it's more annoying that I get those unwanted visuals when I hear it... I don't like this little ''defect'' of mine... :-/
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-07-28 19:47 [#00328267]
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people accusing you of being closeminded just because you dislike a song is just as ignorant
confield was good,i didnt feel gantz graf though,amd i not "cutting edge" anymore?
fucking euro-trash elitists
if you like it,awesome if you dont, just as good
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-28 21:18 [#00328336]
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im more in it for the visual stuff. The visual is as important as the audio for gantz graf. Without the vid, gantz graf isnt that great, just seems a bit random, and same with the video. Put them together, and it really hits the spot.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-29 00:14 [#00328412]
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personally i didn't believe it really was autechre that made gantz graf until it was confirmed. no i don't like it that much, i don't get the point of the song. maybe it helps seeing the video with it.
but the other two songs on the gantz graf ep are superb. especially cap.iv but also dial. i don't think i'll have wasted money when my copy arrives.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-29 02:03 [#00328574]
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I'm not saying someone is closed-minded for saying that they don't like a piece of music.
I wrote that this thing of saying gantz graf "isn't music" is 'closed-minded'.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:24 [#00329337]
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Gantz Graf.... fucking great on the right pair of speakers really fucking loud!
You'll then appreciate your ears after that!
I really love Gantz Graf...so go easy on it lads, learn to love it.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-07-29 17:28 [#00329345]
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im getting 2 copies of the dvd one for me and one for ^^^^^^^(one above)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:29 [#00329348]
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marry me thad. :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-29 17:29 [#00329350]
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or dont, either way... thanks a squillion! ;)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-07-29 17:37 [#00329362]
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i only heard the track once at the warp bus tour in dublin and, because of the video it blew me away. ...i must get it now
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-07-29 17:42 [#00329367]
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shit i cant wait now
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2002-07-29 17:48 [#00329379]
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I don't really understand people saying that this is unlistenable. It's harsh for sure ... but that's Ae of late. What did you expect?
I'm quite thrilled with this release particularly Cap.IV.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-29 21:37 [#00329635]
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I enjoyed Confield. I found it new/interesting/refreshing from all the other stuff i'd been listening too lately.
I'm not saying Gantz Graf is NOT music. It IS music, just not good music. It gives me no emotion other than the fact that It instills hate for the song in me.
I'm not closed minded, I dont expect for Autechre to make Afx music. But I would like AE to make something that instills wonder and emotion in me.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-07-29 21:38 [#00329641]
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I just watched the video, and while it's good, the music is lacking. This just isn't prime Autechre. They can, and WILL, do better.
Unlike previous reports, I did NOT begin to ''understand'' the song when I ''saw'' the song. I already understood it... a 2nd rate composition by Booth and Brown.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-07-30 22:42 [#00331197]
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you suck..it rocks!!
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