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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 00:40 [#00327481]
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whoa! I just read the thread "avril lavergne shocker" I started a few days ago.. some nice comments there..
thought I'd start a new thread to voice my opinion as the other one has gotten rather huge.
I agree that there is good pop music and bad pop music, as in in every genre. I do dislike bands like the aforementioned Avril, Shakira and I really despise Jive fucking Jones. ofcourse, anyone should listen to anything they like.
what is harmful about this kind of pre-fabricated slighly marketed crap (and in this I'm also paraphrasing Henry Rollins), is that huge amounts of money are poured in their development - money that could be spend to invest in more interesting bands/people.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-28 00:43 [#00327483]
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Those people are the ones who are most marketable. It is the music "business" afterall.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 00:50 [#00327485]
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I don't necessarily agree.
they are the most marketable because they are being kept as the most marketable kind of music - these acts get a HUGE pr-thing, other bands/acts (and I'm not only talking about obscure electronics now) have to make their own name.
nothing really new is allowed to be introduced.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-07-28 00:53 [#00327488]
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thats true, but do you think its easier to handle someone who you hired, or someone who is trying to be an artist in their own right? If both sell the same amount of records after being buoyed up on an extravagant PR campaign, I would choose the hired pawn if I were the record exec, easier to deal with. At the same time though, there are great bands who breakthrough to the mainstream )Nirvana, Pearl Jam, more recently, You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead, Radiohead)
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Steamtank
from Melancholia Isle (Poland) on 2002-07-28 00:58 [#00327490]
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oh i would not say so.... there is a lot of new trends incorporated(i should have used other word but i dont want to check it in the dictionary ;o) ) into this "bad" pop-
the neptunes producing britney spears and so on but this kind of pop will always be artificial soulless hybrid....
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 01:01 [#00327493]
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yeah I know why the record companies do it like this - its a quick fix. you pump money into someone, who makes one cd that sells millions, than either keeps repeating that success exactly for a few years, or flutters out. either way, a lot of money is made.
I know that.
record companies invest on the long term in the way that they try to keep the musical taste thats 'hip' in a kind of stasis for as long as is inhumanly possible. they don't invest in people that will develop in their own right.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-07-28 01:02 [#00327494]
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lets not forget about those Satan spawned boy bands. If money had a dick Nsync would be riding it till their asses were sore.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-28 01:05 [#00327498]
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I think quite a lot of money could be made by splitting up a budget over a whole lot of smaller projects.
this sounds really horrible and elitist, but some people need to be shown that there is better stuff out there.
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