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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:12 [#00323924]
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If anyone is going to an Aphex concert for the first time... do wear ear plugs.. ;)
just a bit of advice
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-25 12:17 [#00323929]
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Tell us more...
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:17 [#00323930]
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eeerm...I am going for the first time next month. WITHOUT earplugs.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:18 [#00323931]
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Yeah, ummm im not a doctor.. so whats tinitus?!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:19 [#00323934]
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i've had tinnitus for 8 years =P
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:19 [#00323935]
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ringing ears isnt it?!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323937]
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what you've experienced is mainly your ear that warns you of to high sound. Like a pre-tinnitus warning
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323938]
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tinitus...is an itch in the behind.. hehe.. no.. its the constant static/sounds in your ears because very loud sounds fucked it up....
NOOOO.. dont go without earplugs!!!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:20 [#00323939]
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yes...different frequences...can be different noises/tones too
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:21 [#00323941]
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I talked with a dude once, he had a constant sound of a truck passing by.
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:22 [#00323942]
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When I heard him in 1998 at Roskilde, everyone was standing OUTSIDE the tent.. because of the volume..
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:23 [#00323943]
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When I heard him in Copenhagen.. There was no tent.. I was trapped.. doomed... to get my ears fucked by the Master himself..
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:24 [#00323945]
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thanks for warning me, but I think I'd like to HEAR him.
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:25 [#00323946]
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hehe.. you will hear him . and have a good concert.. Wheres he playing?
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:26 [#00323947]
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ahhh.. pukkelpop
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:26 [#00323948]
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I have earplugs that turns down the volume on the music a bit, so i still hear what people are saying to me. Not all people can get tinnitus...
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:28 [#00323950]
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yeeeees!! Pukkelpop!
=o)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-07-25 12:31 [#00323952]
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How does Richard himself coup with all this noise?! I mean years of it has gotta fuck you up!
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 12:31 [#00323953]
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I have earplugs too, but I never used them before. I don't like the way they change the sound. and they look silly.
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:35 [#00323955]
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I have never worn any earplugs.. and I dont do it now.. But Aphex is the only one I have experienced this psycho-loud (exept Dinosuaur jr.)
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vonb
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-07-25 12:36 [#00323956]
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Well. if aphex is deaf.... he can just feel his music... if its load enough
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 13:30 [#00324000]
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what? it goes away? why, then there's still hope
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-07-25 14:35 [#00324075]
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Funny, I started wearing earplugs to most shows after a really loud Mercury Rev/Dinosaur Jr show...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-07-25 15:25 [#00324144]
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i'd advise to wear earplugs, man
ive been to raves and concerts and not been able to hear for days afterwards.
i get headaches with the tinnitus thing aswell. i never thought earplugs changed the sound much, trust me youll be able to hear thru them.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-07-25 15:27 [#00324147]
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i'd advise to wear earplugs, man
ive been to raves and concerts and not been able to hear for days afterwards.
i get headaches with the tinnitus thing aswell. i never thought earplugs changed the sound much, trust me youll be able to hear thru them.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-07-25 15:30 [#00324154]
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hmmmm.... I don't know....
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 15:50 [#00324185]
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You're going to be so fucking sorry if you ever have to deal with tinnitus. They say that people don't that don't have it, don't understand what it's like until they experience it. I know that sounds like a 'no shit' kind of thing, but it's definitely true.
See, the thing is, that the effets of tinnitus caused by long time exposure to loud noises, can be life long. Now I know you've experienced a ringing in your ears before from something, I'm sure -- almost everyone has at some point. But if you can, imagine hearing or perceiving that for the rest of your life. Not so cool.
Wear earplugs. I do ALL of the time I've played in a band for 2 1/2 years and I've worn earplugs every time we practiced or had a show.
A couple of months ago I had a hearing test to see how things were after wearing protection al those times, and my hearing was normal. However, the guitar player has never worn earplugs, so he suffers from slight noise induced hearing loss, so it definitely pays to wear them. You will hear everything just fine. Just like your ears adapt to the loudness of it without the earplugs, they will adapt to the way things sound through the earplugs, and you will be happier in the long run, if you love music. Well, if you value your sense of hearing at all.
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 15:53 [#00324190]
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It just does not, at all, make any sense to me why people who enjoy music so much, don't protect their hearing. It's totally beyond me.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:00 [#00324200]
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yeah the earplugs i have DO influence the sound. i wear them while playing my electric guitar, the sound is blurred, not accurateat all. but yeah it beats getting deafer and deafer, i guess
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:01 [#00324202]
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you can buy high quality ear plugs, that are custom made to fit your ear, and they filter the level equally, so its just like a turned down volume... no change in sound quality
about 100 bucks though... but great investments for musicians
im getting some soon
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:02 [#00324203]
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Well of course they're going to blur the sound, that's how they protect your hearing. Cuts out the dB levels. You're smart for wearing them though.
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:04 [#00324209]
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Yeah, I'm going to get some of those. The lady I talked to qouted me a $370 though, which is insane. I guess I'll try to look around for something better, price-wise.
Right now I wear one of those isolation headsets, the kind the you see people on gun ranges wearing. I've seen lots of musicians wear them. They REALLY cut down the volume.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:05 [#00324211]
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yeah i heard about those. mine cost me about 10 dollars and they suck.
what about discmen? i mean, hard to protect your ears when you're sitting on a bus and you want to listen to music, isn't it?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:07 [#00324215]
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370?!?!?!
where do you live?
I live in boston, and they are made at North Eastern University... so i was told...
yeah... discmen... that can be hard... i just try to keep it as soft as i can, but loud enough to hear everything
except when im writting music... i pump up the volume for my headphones, cause I want to hear every detail...
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:09 [#00324222]
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Yeah, discmans are one of the main causes for tinnitus, but I think that's only if you like, listen to it daily at loud volumes. Plus I know the feeling. I rode a city transit bus to and from school everyday, because my car doesn't have brakes at the moment (goddammit) and I listen to headphones at least 2 or 3 days a week on that thing. Otherwise, I'd get so bored.
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:10 [#00324227]
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They say to adjust the volume until it is at a comfortable level and does not distort. That's what they say in the manuals anyhow.
I know, I was like "What the fuck? Do they do your fucking taxes too?!" when she told me how much they costed, but I'm going to look around a bit more.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:14 [#00324233]
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yeah i ride the bus at least three times a week, back and forth, (when i'm not holidaying, that is), and i bet it doesn't do my ears any good. it's an hours drive, though. music is unmissable
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:23 [#00324244]
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they say everyone who suffers from it reacts differently to tinnitus. Some people can live with it just fine, other people can't take the constant noise in their head at all, and slowly go insane...
I got a ringing in my ear after a concert, a couple of months back. It scared me to death :-s
I was really glad when the sound eventually went away (in a couple of weeks time), and the thought of having to live with with that noise for the rest of your life doesn't seem very appealing... never a moment of silence... always that irritating sound. It reminded me of rushing water... like i was constantly standing in the shower.
(i bought earplugs the next day... not really professional ones i think (they cost 25 euros). But the guy behind the counter said they'd be fine if i just went to a concert every now and then).
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:26 [#00324246]
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It definitely depends on the person. If you're a musician or a music lover, dealing with it could be rather tough.
But yeah, I would imagine some people just don't even pay it any attention.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:30 [#00324250]
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ive had the ringing for years now. the worst moments are when there's no sound at all, then i actually notice the it. i fancy i'll go made one day :)
my hearing isn't impaired at all, however. i hear way better than anyone i know. maybe that's because i'm trying to hang on to it :(
:)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:31 [#00324252]
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and apparently, it has actually driven some people to suicide :-o
Maybe i would rather be altogether deaf than have permanent tinnitus. I mean I'm glad i don't have to choose ;-) But still. It was so annoying when i was trying to get to sleep, and all i could here was that sound. It seems to get louder as you focus on it..
And when you try to block it out... you can't help but focus on it anyway.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-25 16:32 [#00324255]
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I remember when I was little (7 or 8) I used to hear ringing when it was very quiet. Usually at night as I was going off to sleep.
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:34 [#00324260]
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Yeah, doctors will suggest that you go somewhere where there's a low level of ambience or create some, to sort of mask the ringing.
I've heard of some people turning on the radio to static to get to sleep at night.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:35 [#00324261]
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btw, i can't remember when it started, but i don't think it had anything to do with loud music. i had a terrible ear ache after my first intercontinental flight, i think that's what caused it.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:36 [#00324262]
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i actually find the ringing soothing, at times.
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:37 [#00324263]
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Really?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-07-25 16:39 [#00324268]
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well didn't you ever go to a doctor with it? If it's not from loud music, it might be something else instead of tinnitus. I think there is no cure for tinnitus, but if your ear is damaged in some other way, they might be able to fix it.
Unless you find the ringing so soothing you don't wanna miss it ofcourse ;-)
Actually "hardcore obelisk" reminds me a little of that sound aswell... only less annoying and more beautiful :-)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:40 [#00324269]
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it's a thing that's always with me. it's weird, but it's a kind of security, routine, familiarness...
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-07-25 16:41 [#00324270]
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i went to a doctor last year, had my ears cleansed (or what's it called in english), but she said it can't be helped. about the plane, that's just my own little theory :)
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Clic
on 2002-07-25 16:44 [#00324273]
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Well, you're very lucky to have your mind react to it in a positive way.
And yes, there is no known cure for tinnitus.
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