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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:11 [#00312900]
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A couple of days ago I downloaded Hagable Auto Bulb ep 1+2. Strangely enough I found out that the previous version I had downloaded, countained jitters and high noise, hell some of the tracks was even recorded in the wrong tempo. Then I searched for it on Soulseek and found a complet version in 320Kbps Mp3. Now why would you make a 320kbps copy of an vinyl only release? yeah sure if you had like the best record-player in the world.
And if that isnt strange enough I discovered that every track was ending with a bit of the next track (like if it was recorded directly from vinyl, and later cut up). But why leave the a bit of next track in the end? I didnt think of it much until I discovered that between Wabby Legs (H.A.B. EP1 track 6) and had a bit of Everyday (H.A.B. EP2 track 1). If this was a vinyl rip, that couldnt have been done. then I found out, while cutting the small bits away from the mp3, that there was no noise at all in that recording, wich leaves me with this conclusion: the mp3-rip is a studio-rip!
comments?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-17 15:18 [#00312902]
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I found similair strange things the other day. I only realised when I recorded my CD of it to tape and put Everyday and Arched maid several tracks apart. I was driving home from work when I noticed it.
It may be worth converting the 320kbps MP3 to wav and having a look v. close up at the wave image...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 15:19 [#00312903]
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Um? Send it my way plz! }:)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:20 [#00312904]
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thats what i did...the recording is sooooooooooo clean...like if it waas the original
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 15:21 [#00312907]
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mmm...maybe...320kbps vers of HAB ain't that rare on SS, I've dled a few myself...
Could've been done from a DAT someone made of their Vinyl copy...I know a few people do this (tape their precious virgin vinyl onto DAT for archive purposes)...
Also, a lot of Vinyl rips get declicked/denoised in Soundforge or whatever...
But yeah, you could be right....
(but then again, I hear rumours of a HAB reissue on CD so if we're lucky that could be the source......)...
Are there any clues in the MP3 ID fields?...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 15:22 [#00312908]
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Dude, as sad as it sounds, your turning me on. }:)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-07-17 15:22 [#00312909]
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I'll have to take a copy of the wav with me next time I go to my gf's grandad's house. His hobby is cleaning up old jazz vinyl to wavs and he'd be able to tell.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:27 [#00312917]
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the ID3 have been changed many times me thinks
But it's just so strange...at first i thought it was my winamp fucking up (u know...strange things can happen when a slow PC plays 320kbps *hehe*) ..but after listening to the one at a time i realized that they must be some high-class rip...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:28 [#00312919]
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oh yeah btw...the rip of Children Talking is missing 1 second at the start of the track (???)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 15:28 [#00312920]
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Junk...you gonna share em on SS?...
what's your Username if so?...
pretty please :)...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:34 [#00312925]
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that wouldnt have been a problem if it werent for this story:
Me and me g/f was visiting my mom, and before leaving I turned on my slsk and Grokster so I could finish some downloading. Well, hours went by and we came home. Then I discorvered my ISP had cut my connection bcuz i had used my 5GB maximum transfer for this month. DAMN! ...i had to pay extra to get 500megs more this month....
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:36 [#00312927]
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and I only downloaded 700megs! the rest was uploading...i friggin uploaded 2GB yesterday!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 15:37 [#00312928]
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no hassles, mate....
I'll have a look thru the 320kbps HABs I've got and see if perhaps they are the same....
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-07-17 15:43 [#00312929]
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more friggin weirdness!!!: I just found out that there was a bit of Everday in a slow version (?) at the end of Arched Maid (??)
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xceque
on 2002-07-17 16:24 [#00312958]
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Hmm. It's really not hard to do a very good rip of the HABs from the vinyl and remove the surface noise, then record to CDR. I've done it with my own copies and they sound great. The dodgyness of that 320k rip is very likely to have been caused by re-ripping from a CDR made from a vinyl rip. I've heard those 320k rips and they sound just like they've been ripped from a CDR with the track separations in the wrong place.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-07-17 16:26 [#00312963]
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And here was me creaming over a re-release. Oh well.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2002-07-17 18:59 [#00313143]
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The last on HAB2 of whichever song it is, but the tempo is way wrong cause all the songs are played at different tempos, though what I just means nothing really, but oh well...
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OK
on 2002-07-18 06:03 [#00313833]
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that's cus there's a re release of HAb 1&2 coming up on warp... i't sbeen leaked...
NOT!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-10-22 03:54 [#00412545]
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so....studio-rip or new-release-leak? what do you think?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-22 03:58 [#00412553]
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i've had a 320 kbps version of hab for 3 years.... no rerelease i think
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-10-22 04:00 [#00412558]
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very interesting....!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2002-10-22 08:43 [#00412815]
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:O~~~~~
D/L it now
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Elastic
from Zidum (Kiribati) on 2002-10-22 08:45 [#00412820]
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;)
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martinhm
from York (United Kingdom) on 2002-10-23 06:14 [#00413899]
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jand: any substance to those HAB re-release rumours?
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-10-23 08:18 [#00413946]
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i also have 320 kbps hab 1 & 2 files, but they're cutted, sometimes the tracks goes back to another point from the song.... have to download better versions, that was for a year ...
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-11-11 08:30 [#00436769]
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just bumping this since the attention is on HAB again
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-11 08:56 [#00436794]
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none...I'm afraid...altho my contact was pretty confident...
maybe another shelved plan...I dunno...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-01-29 01:57 [#00532471]
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What about HAB re-release? Only rumours without future?
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-30 21:43 [#00535215]
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whoever did that 320 version, god bless him and his orchestra.
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