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I saw this on the Joyrex forum LOL (John cage has silence copywritten) http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=307449 hillarious! LOL |
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2The silence on his group's album clearly sounds uncannily like 4'33", the silence composed by Cage in his prime" LOL |
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HAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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did Cage acctually record it? or just perform it... and if it is recorded... is it a recording of him being silent.. or is it digital silence... i belive boc is digital silence... which would not be an infringement of copyright imo |
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thats the most stupidest thing i have ever read |
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Umm, actually, it would be in breach of copyright either way- copyright applies to the "notes" of a piece as well as actual "performance" recordings. Mind you, no court (even in the US) would prosecute even if cage took BoC to court :) |
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I think Cages rolling over in his grave over this...GREEDY ass publicist, they must be joking! |
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yea this is shitty. i wonder why BOC and soulfly (new album has a minute of silence for 9/11 victims) aren't also being prosecuted. |
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bloodhound gang also did it with their "ten coolest things about new jersey." |
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I think john lennon also did something similar. |
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Zeus: Actually, Cages 4'33'' was intended as an expression of how complete silence is not achievable: the famous David Tudor's performance of this piece in Yellowstone National Park demonstrated how every silence actually is different. The piece has three parts and Tudor had to differentiate between them by lifting and putting back the piano keyboard lid. Various sounds (birds singing, rain...) penetrated the silence. No silence is the same, should be the message I guess. |
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exactly, tho that's what i thought Zeus was getting at with his comment "him being silent" vs. "digital silence" |
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yeah... cause like... Cages whole philosophy was that everything is music... and by him being silent for 4:33, he was showing all the sounds around you that is music. But with BoC, the digital silence is supposed to be complete silence... not even a recording of silence... just blank audio data. by the way... my teacher told me that Cage was invited to this chamber that was supposedly 100% sound proof. And he went in, and came out alittle later, and was upset... because he could hear high pitched humming and a low rumbling. The scientists said that what he was hearing was the electricity from his brain, and his heart... when its completly silent... you can hear it apparently. |
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I think Cage just fell asleep from his mad-boring pieces, while BoC ran out of Leslie Nielsen tapes to sample. -P |
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"yeah... cause like... Cages whole philosophy was that everything is music... and by him being silent for 4:33, he was showing all the sounds around you that is music. " well i think boc's intention's were similar to cage's... hence the name "magic window" window trough wich you appreciate the sounds around you. |
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and BTW.. i can stand silence.. it's the most load noise ever.. it can squash your head |
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Silence is unobtainable. John Cage himself, in research, went into a total silence chamber at some university. As he was inside, he reported two sounds...one high..and one low. one being his heart..and the other sound being his nervous system. our bodies make sounds...theres no such thing has silence unless we are deaf...but even then i have to wonder if they might hear vibrations? |
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sorry zeus...i had written my above post before reading yours...sorry for the copy :/ |
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I agree with OK 100% silence has to be thee most heavy thing you could ever put yourself though. |
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you son of a- its cool man |
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I think John Cage's 4'33" is a masterpiece in its own right. Its one of the coolest things ever to happen. I would love to see it preformed. |
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John Cage is dead. and Zeus, are you Pen Expers from Watmm? You remind of him. A k k a d |
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nope... is it a good thing or a bad thing? |
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you guys know about the john cage peice in... germany i think it is... that lasts hundreds of years or something.. i forget the details... its played on this organ... and they put rocks down for each note, so it holds... or somecrazyness... |
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Wow, thats a cool thought to dwell on, Amon |
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ive heard about that song, it supposed to take like 200,000 years for it to finish or something right? I didnt know it was john cage. |
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for the record both soundgarden and yoko ono have had tracks of just silence. soundgarden "covered" yoko ono's one minete of silence |
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i think the guy is sued not for stealing cages' idea, but because he is calling ita song by batt/cage, claiming cage had a part in it. |
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"in space no one can hear you scream" |
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how can you copyright silence? |
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can = can't in my last post. |
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