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that's the joint! ya heard it? |
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That is one of the most unfunky hiphop tracks ever....fuckin' wack Jay-Z affiliated bullshit....try bumpin' the new Kid Acne! :) Or even better, you want some groovy ass shit, try the Nappy Rootz record. |
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I like that song a lot actually... It kinda reminds me of BoC in some ways... |
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what ways would those be? |
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the child vocal parts, and the flute sound they use in the song... |
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those are actually tweeked women vocals, but I see what you mean |
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i used to think all that was bullshit too, now i'm startin to like that style, it's so chilled and smooth. |
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yes, many good hip-hop producers enjoy 'idm' type music, I know the Rza is a big boc fan, and often get ideas for there beats/tracks from it |
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Really? How do you know that? |
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About the Rza? He said it in an interview. |
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that track's fucking annoying. |
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it is pretty dawm repetitive, and the vocals/lyrics are weak. I liked it the first couple times I heard it, but it really gets annoying hearing it all the time as the bars down here play the piss out of it and most of my friends love the mainstream rap, ie Nelly, Trick Daddy and Big Tymers type stuff, which I really don't like at all |
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it's an interesting track at least, you have to give rappers credit for trying different things (PLEASE tell me you noticed the technique used throughout the song) |
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Oh, you mean of rhyming over the beat? That was innovative. |
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you mean the technique where every line ends with "boy"? |
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Yeah I noticed that too. |
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It's almost as ground breaking as Juvenile - Ha, where he discovered he can make seaming endless ryhmes by ending each phrase with "ha", "ha!", or "ha?".......simply genius |
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actually the words before ha rhymed as well. ha! |
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i love you nene for noticing that. some people make themselves look really foolish with overly dismissive comments. it's called "internal rhyme" structure. and to Xanatos, whether you hate hip-hop or not, i hope you realize that rappers completing their sentences with tweaked vocal samples is pretty uncommon, and for such songs to be embraced by urban radio (instead of ivy league college dorm floors) is something else. |
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i actually hate this song. it's polluted on mtv constantly with BADLY sinked model wannbes sinking to the the "oh boy" sample. eww. it's songs like this that really piss me off, and wish mtv would hit me with some other piece of crap vid. at least you didn't start a topic about the "yin yang twins" (ppl, plz don't, i have a big enough headache as it is) |
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I guess I fit into that some people catagory. I was really just joking on you because you said "PLEASE tell me you noticed"...and it's a little hard to miss those samples, I'm sure even the teenie boppers who wait for it to come on the radio notice the samples. Its just another interesting little trick by some producer somewhere whose rolling around in a bed of money, its only purpose is to differentiate the mainstream garbage enough to hold people's attention until the next thing comes along. When DMX dropped the Ruff Ryderz anthem a few years back with a sample of a bunch of guys going "WHAT" (although I know that wasn't tweaked) after every line, I wasn't like, wow that's hot because its different, it was just annoying. I'm not incapable of giving props to mainstream artists, Ludicrous' rhyme structure in Saturday is the hotness, partly because its unusual partly because it just sounds good, and displays talent of and ingenuity of the artist. Where he's like and I stop-- at a light-- pull off so slow but I'm out-- for the night-- so pass that dro (one of these in each verse) There's definately worse songs out there, and I have to admit, I am just a little prejudice against anything in the mainstream. But this isn't anything too spectacular, imo. |
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it's not noticing the sample itself, it's noticing how it's used. urban radio listeners get it, it's pretty hard to miss i agree. but i wanted to make sure you and the rest of you realize just HOW uncommon it is for a popular song to use a sample like that. a lot of my friends hate on the mainstream too, and i do mean a LOT. but i have to stick up for hip-hop radio. there's some really clever stuff going on there, mostly produced by timbaland, the neptunes (i am in love with the back to the 80s underground beat for the clipse "grindin'"), buckwild (gza "fame"), dr. dre, eminem (entire new album), and even that new one by dj quik (truth hurts "addictive"). i'm not counting my man rza because his shit's never on the radio anymore, nor are a lot of my other favorite hip-hop producers. much to my surprise and disbelief, i've even had to give CASH MONEY props lately: lil wayne has actually come into his own as a lyricist (i challenge you to listen to his new SQ4 freestyles) and mannie fresh has really, really taken it to the next level on the big tymers track "still fly". the production on the cam'ron track is weak but i am just giving whoever it is (some roc-a-fella in-house producer) his propz for integrating the sample the way he did. it's an electronica element and i get off on hip-hop acts getting off on electronica (outkast, missy elliott). |
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Corngrower: Let me correct u......RZA dont know who BOC is..IT was BOC who said they are really into RZAs producing style (with the highpitched female vocal sample rumbling base, dirty break beats and flutes and stuff on top)...NO, RZA have never talked about BOC or "idm" (dunno what that is, I hate that term ;) And its not hip hop producers from the states who get inspiration from "idm" cats its the other way...CEX loves Neptunes and Timbaland and have stated in lot of interviews that they are big inspirations..Autechre get stuff from hip hop... |
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Hell even Four Tet said he loved "Dark Child". |
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I think we feel pretty much the same way, just have some conflicting tastes. For example, I think timabaland is doing some fucking awesome shit out there. He deserves 1% of the props I would give to DJ Premier, who's never on the radio, but still, timbaland is skilled. The new eminem album is groundbreaking, production, rhymes, everything, one of the first new hip hop albums I have felt that strongly about in a while. On the other hand, I think still fly is awful, and oh boy is somewhere in the middle, interesting but not taking anything to a new, or old level. I enjoy discussing it anyway because you definately have your opinions backed up+I agree with u on a lot of things, Busta Rhymes beat in Break Yo' Neck is def. a hot example of mainstream hip hop getting off on electronica. But then again busta has always ripped it up. Anyway I'm gonna get some food in me and pass out, peace. |
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oh well, i like it anyway.;) if i want complex holographic raps i'll listen to Del. |
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I dig on that track "shine" (I think it's by lil' wayne). it's got a nice video gameish melody. most hip hop relies too much on novelty and repetition for me to really get into it. the tracks get old quick. |
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That song is what is wrong with hip hop these day's...........THE BARON HAS SPOKEN WHEN WILL PEOPLE START TO USE THEIR BRAINS ??????? |
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