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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-23 21:35 [#00281879]
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I think the best way to save this planet would be to pack up our shit and leave right now haha!! =)
The way we polute use and destroy everything in nature and even ourselfs make me sick.
I mean we still drive cars that puke out toxics the year 2002 !!?!?!?
Shit!! You say we are the only ones that could save the planet and you are right.
But im not feeling very optimistic right now.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-23 21:43 [#00281881]
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Roll on hydrogen cars!
Yeah, the best way to save the planet would be for the entire human race to kill themselves right now.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-24 00:20 [#00282078]
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I don't think we will find out the truth to the universe when we die, I think death will be what its like before birth, the absence of conciousness, I think that when you are dead you will not even know it, you will even know that you will have ever even lived, you will become nothing.
I don't think the human race will even be around 20,000 more years, yet alone 2000, at the rate we rape our planet for every ounce of resources it has. Sydo is right, we are like a despicable virus, and as soon as earth is a rotting cadaver, Mars will be next, if we even get that far... we may just end up extinct on earth due to the incredible odds at actually moving an entire population to another planet trillions of miles away, or we may just end up as vaporized particles due to a fucking nuclear war.
God the human race is terrible.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-24 00:21 [#00282083]
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you will not* even know that u have ever lived
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-24 00:23 [#00282089]
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I do not at the moment believe in God but I haven't totally discounted the possibility of his existence.
I have, however, determined that all organized religions (Christianity, Catholicism, Mormism, Mennonitism)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-24 01:16 [#00282190]
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paraphrasing Nietzsche - we should be especially wary of a morality based on prohibitions (do not .. etc. etc.)!
language at the end of the day screws it all up - knowledge undermines itself.
I think it may have been walter benjamin (unsure now though) that used the fall as an analogy of describing language. Kinda cool - in a metaphorical sense -> being expelled from the garden of eden = given language - in a sick and twisted taunting type style preventing us from knowing anything - whilst we can't surely know that!
bleargh
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:17 [#00282192]
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beware of the superman!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-24 01:17 [#00282193]
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When Zarathustra killed God he was trying to kill truth!
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-24 01:18 [#00282195]
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:)
superman doesn't quite do the ÃœBERMENSCH any justice :)
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:21 [#00282198]
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I`ve actually only read half of thus spoke zarathustra,but it is very interesting
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:23 [#00282200]
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the meaning of life is to be found in purely human terms
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-24 01:28 [#00282207]
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The lastman or the übermensch! which one will it be?
I haven't read all of it either, but i've read Beyond Good & Evil - the Equal to it? The genealogical way (tracing things back to their roots) is quite a cool method imo - undermines everything quite nicely also. as in "the genealogy of morals".
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mccabe
from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:33 [#00282212]
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as i looked at it ,i think he was saying that only after we realize that god is dead,that can we think in higher terms[as in the superman]& that only then things can get better[the nazis obviously twisted it]........but dont quote me as its been a while since read it [i do plan to finish it off one day]
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 01:33 [#00282213]
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i believe that there is something like a god, but not "God"
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Monumrnt
from To (Canada) on 2002-06-24 01:41 [#00282220]
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My god is dead. His name is Perun.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-24 01:41 [#00282221]
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Yeah, God can also = Science as Nietzsche foreshadowed.
Nietzsche essentially is responding to Kant - the most sophisticated formulator of the judeo-christian tradition. Nietzsche responds to his rationalism and universalization - according to Nietzsche philosophy is a personal confession of the writer -
Thus spoke zarathustra in a sense is Nietzsche's personal manifesto what he fantasizes/imagines we could aspire to be (sort of hints of Darwin - what makes us think we are the end product of evolution? - we are striving towards the übermensch).
But even as Nietzsche comments himself:
"I am afraid we are not rid of God because we still have faith in grammar"!!!
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2002-06-24 02:07 [#00282237]
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i do believe in God. altough i´m not that much of a pious person, most times i feel like i need some support from above. It´s like this: through my 7 years of architecture studies, at the end of each semester i´d have to show my projects to a huge audience ´plus 4 or 5 external teachers, and every time i´d get terrified. Even though i was certain of what i had done with each project there was always a sense of uncertainty which you can´t control, so i´d ask God before the lecture to give me a hand......with the passing of the years i aced every semester so i made a "deal" wit´him. i told him "aaight God, if i put 100% into the stuff i do, would you put 100% help with the uncertainties?"....so far our little deal has worked, so i usually stop by the church once a week to thank him.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-06-24 02:27 [#00282243]
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YES i do believe in God.
i look around at the order of the universe, the earth on it's perfect axis(or not so perfect and yet if it were any different we'd BE TOAST), the flowers, the rain, the lovely variety of animals, insects (ewwwww) people..etc... and it's hard to say that it all just HAPPENED....i used to argue with my biology professors until they 'gave' up from trying to turn me into an evolutionist (which i found to be very offensive).
people should believe what they want, and no one should try to change their mind. it's a very personal thing. and i believe we have the FREE will to believe whatever.
i will say it's comforting to know that others share my belief's (corn_mouth you words were especially nice) and it's nice to see that each of us feels comfortable with what we believe in, and comfortable saying what we feel on this MB....that says a lot about this community! =0)
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Kryocera
from Plano, TX (United States) on 2002-06-24 08:27 [#00282580]
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o wait, silly us, Duh, did we all forget? APHEX TWIN IS GOD!
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 08:42 [#00282589]
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I agree that it's impossible to derive "real" truth from just words...philosophy ends up becoming merely a semantic exercise. I love Nietzsche's dogged, hard-earned optimism, and I think reading the same - about half of Zarathustra and Beyond Good and Evil, each - has had a positive impact on my outlook on life. He verbally smashes to pieces all the conventions that the mainstream Judeo-Christian tradition holds onto and then smiling, looks with pride upon the ruins that he's created, ready to build a new paradise.
I don't believe in one big, sentient God. Of everything I've ever read/heard/experienced, Taoism and the Tao Te Ching are closest to how I view the world. I am researching Zen Buddhism right now as well, and that also seems close.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-25 21:52 [#00284860]
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All is one, and one is all. There is not god because we are all Him.
Just remember: Every point in the universe is exactly the same as every other point. No single point is favoured among the rest.
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Aktium
from cleveland (United States) on 2002-06-26 02:50 [#00285149]
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whats with all this god stuff lately?
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BaronVonPickleF
from United States on 2002-06-26 03:34 [#00285170]
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How many people don't feel like going home tonight ?How many questions will you die with in your pocket ?How many answers do you think will ever help you out ?How many mornings would you have rather stayed in bed ?????THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!
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