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offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-06-23 21:35 [#00281879]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker | Followup to E-man: #00281862



I think the best way to save this planet would be to pack up
our shit and leave right now haha!! =)

The way we polute use and destroy everything in nature and
even ourselfs make me sick.
I mean we still drive cars that puke out toxics the year
2002 !!?!?!?
Shit!!
You say we are the only ones that could save the planet and
you are right.
But im not feeling very optimistic right now.



 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-23 21:43 [#00281881]
Points: 1371 Status: Lurker



Roll on hydrogen cars!

Yeah, the best way to save the planet would be for the
entire human race to kill themselves right now.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-24 00:20 [#00282078]
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I don't think we will find out the truth to the universe
when we die, I think death will be what its like before
birth, the absence of conciousness, I think that when you
are dead you will not even know it, you will even know that
you will have ever even lived, you will become nothing.

I don't think the human race will even be around 20,000 more
years, yet alone 2000, at the rate we rape our planet for
every ounce of resources it has. Sydo is right, we are like
a despicable virus, and as soon as earth is a rotting
cadaver, Mars will be next, if we even get that far... we
may just end up extinct on earth due to the incredible odds
at actually moving an entire population to another planet
trillions of miles away, or we may just end up as vaporized
particles due to a fucking nuclear war.

God the human race is terrible.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-06-24 00:21 [#00282083]
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you will not* even know that u have ever lived


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-24 00:23 [#00282089]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



I do not at the moment believe in God but I haven't totally
discounted the possibility of his existence.

I have, however, determined that all organized religions
(Christianity, Catholicism, Mormism, Mennonitism)



 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-24 01:16 [#00282190]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



paraphrasing Nietzsche - we should be especially wary of a
morality based on prohibitions (do not .. etc. etc.)!

language at the end of the day screws it all up - knowledge
undermines itself.

I think it may have been walter benjamin (unsure now though)
that used the fall as an analogy of describing language.
Kinda cool - in a metaphorical sense -> being expelled from
the garden of eden = given language - in a sick and twisted
taunting type style preventing us from knowing anything -
whilst we can't surely know that!

bleargh


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:17 [#00282192]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker



beware of the superman!


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-24 01:17 [#00282193]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



When Zarathustra killed God he was trying to kill truth!


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-24 01:18 [#00282195]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



:)

superman doesn't quite do the ÃœBERMENSCH any justice :)


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:21 [#00282198]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker



I`ve actually only read half of thus spoke zarathustra,but
it is very interesting


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:23 [#00282200]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker



the meaning of life is to be found in purely human terms


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-24 01:28 [#00282207]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



The lastman or the übermensch! which one will it be?

I haven't read all of it either, but i've read Beyond Good &
Evil - the Equal to it? The genealogical way (tracing things
back to their roots) is quite a cool method imo - undermines
everything quite nicely also. as in "the genealogy of
morals".


 

offline mccabe from fuck knows .......I`m lost !!! on 2002-06-24 01:33 [#00282212]
Points: 908 Status: Lurker



as i looked at it ,i think he was saying that only after we
realize that god is dead,that can we think in higher
terms[as in the superman]& that only then things can get
better[the nazis obviously twisted it]........but dont quote
me as its been a while since read it [i do plan to finish it
off one day]


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-24 01:33 [#00282213]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular



i believe that there is something like a god, but not "God"


 

offline Monumrnt from To (Canada) on 2002-06-24 01:41 [#00282220]
Points: 733 Status: Addict



My god is dead.
His name is Perun.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-24 01:41 [#00282221]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



Yeah, God can also = Science as Nietzsche foreshadowed.

Nietzsche essentially is responding to Kant - the most
sophisticated formulator of the judeo-christian tradition.
Nietzsche responds to his rationalism and universalization -
according to Nietzsche philosophy is a personal confession
of the writer -

Thus spoke zarathustra in a sense is Nietzsche's personal
manifesto what he fantasizes/imagines we could aspire to be
(sort of hints of Darwin - what makes us think we are the
end product of evolution? - we are striving towards the
übermensch).

But even as Nietzsche comments himself:

"I am afraid we are not rid of God because we still have
faith in grammar"!!!


 

offline corn_mouth from santiago (Chile) on 2002-06-24 02:07 [#00282237]
Points: 1321 Status: Lurker



i do believe in God. altough i´m not that much of a pious
person, most times i feel like i need some support from
above. It´s like this: through my 7 years of architecture
studies, at the end of each semester i´d have to show my
projects to a huge audience ´plus 4 or 5 external
teachers, and every time i´d get terrified. Even though i
was certain of what i had done with each project there was
always a sense of uncertainty which you can´t control, so
i´d ask God before the lecture to give me a hand......with
the passing of the years i aced every semester so i made a
"deal" wit´him. i told him "aaight God, if i put 100% into
the stuff i do, would you put 100% help with the
uncertainties?"....so far our little deal has worked, so i
usually stop by the church once a week to thank him.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-06-24 02:27 [#00282243]
Points: 8249 Status: Lurker



YES i do believe in God.

i look around at the order of the universe, the earth on
it's perfect axis(or not so perfect and yet if it were any
different we'd BE TOAST), the flowers, the rain, the lovely
variety of animals, insects (ewwwww) people..etc... and it's
hard to say that it all just HAPPENED....i used to argue
with my biology professors until they 'gave' up from trying
to turn me into an evolutionist (which i found to be very
offensive).

people should believe what they want, and no one should try
to change their mind. it's a very personal thing. and i
believe we have the FREE will to believe whatever.

i will say it's comforting to know that others share my
belief's (corn_mouth you words were especially nice) and
it's nice to see that each of us feels comfortable with what
we believe in, and comfortable saying what we feel on this
MB....that says a lot about this community! =0)


 

offline Kryocera from Plano, TX (United States) on 2002-06-24 08:27 [#00282580]
Points: 92 Status: Lurker



o wait, silly us, Duh, did we all forget?
APHEX TWIN IS GOD!


 

offline license from out of nowhere on 2002-06-24 08:42 [#00282589]
Points: 865 Status: Lurker



I agree that it's impossible to derive "real" truth from
just words...philosophy ends up becoming merely a semantic
exercise. I love Nietzsche's dogged, hard-earned optimism,
and I think reading the same - about half of Zarathustra and
Beyond Good and Evil, each - has had a positive impact on my
outlook on life. He verbally smashes to pieces all the
conventions that the mainstream Judeo-Christian tradition
holds onto and then smiling, looks with pride upon the ruins
that he's created, ready to build a new paradise.

I don't believe in one big, sentient God. Of everything
I've ever read/heard/experienced, Taoism and the Tao Te
Ching are closest to how I view the world. I am
researching Zen Buddhism right now as well, and that also
seems close.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-06-25 21:52 [#00284860]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



All is one, and one is all. There is not god because we are
all Him.

Just remember: Every point in the universe is exactly the
same as every other point. No single point is favoured among
the rest.


 

offline Aktium from cleveland (United States) on 2002-06-26 02:50 [#00285149]
Points: 1128 Status: Lurker



whats with all this god stuff lately?


 

offline BaronVonPickleF from United States on 2002-06-26 03:34 [#00285170]
Points: 688 Status: Regular



How many people don't feel like going home tonight ?How many
questions will you die with in your pocket ?How many answers
do you think will ever help you out ?How many mornings would
you have rather stayed in bed ?????THE BARON HAS
SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!


 


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