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VIRTUAL RECORD LABEL 1. the musical track 2. the making of the master 3. the artwork and layout of the CD 4. the pressing of the CD 5. the promotion of the music 6. the distribution of the music 7. the website THE MUSICAL TRACK Who has veto over material? I favour a democratic and personal approach to this - I also would want to encourage such things as Remote Production and Collaborations THE MAKING OF THE MASTER How do we make the transference? What is the correct/normal format to make the master from? How much would it cost to make a master? THE ARTWORK AND LAYOUT OF THE CD The artists and designers should submit portfolios, so as to gauge different styles. Then it would be a case of deciding which style would suit a particular release THE PRESSING OF THE CD How much would it cost to press a run of CDs? How many CDs would it be prudent to run each time? What else should we include on the CD apart from music? THE PROMOTION OF THE MUSIC How do we promote the music? Spam record stores in a professional manner? Submit music to record stations (e.g. the john peel show on Radio One in the UK/online radio stations)? Here is a good opportunity for people to think of wacky/catchy promotional ideas THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE MUSIC Set up a connective network with Independent Record Stores, each of whom should be persuaded to house at least 10 CDs of a current release -- World-wide, we should aim at between 100 and 500 such record stores to begin with -- which would hopefully stock at least 1000-5000 CDs all together. Here each member can submit a list of such record stores in their area, which can be contacted and liased with. Also, a website would be essential (simple yet beautiful), not only for online orders, but for things such as streaming, biographies of musicians/artists/video makers &tc THE WEBSITE How much would it cost to set up a website with a decent bandwidth? Have to work out things like design, music/video streaming These are just my own personal questions and idea |
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I wont comment on all this, as that would require to much thinking which I cant manage at the moment. 1.the veto should be like 2/3ish type think. majority rules, if more people like it than hate, its in. if its a tie, we flip a coin. 5.all of the above 7.depends on how much content you have, and how much you are willing to pay |
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Marlowe...read my post in Knee-Jerk-topic... |
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I like the thought you've put into this marlowe, there's a chance this'll work :) |
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well i thought i'd put my grey-cells to use ceri :L) junktion, just read your post -- looks very good ;) |
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i do a little grafiti. i'll promote ur records by putting stickers and and stencils all over the place. and flyers in GOOD shops also, hit the right people with copies of the record. eg.Maddog Wallace, Mary-Anne Hobbs, John Peel. |
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ROSTER roygbivcore zeus jivverdicker nexus 6 Aminal smyrma ophecks jand manicminer ctrl alt del sido dyas reflex binaural tea skodt dozier diemax teapot phatbert 000 hepburnenthorpe LeCoeur doki titsworth junktion Ceri JC my little sister fat kaimo dariusgriffin flea plugexpert zguru tricky_13 zombiekev laqeuro the funkmaster steamtank netlon sentinel princo (receptionist/music critic!) weakling child oh, and me, my name's marlowe and this is my crazy world (oops, thought i was in a US teen sitcom there) IF I MISSED ANYONE OR IF ANYONE IS ON THE LIST WHO DON'T WANNA BE, SAY SO :) |
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Have we decided on a name yet? Then people could start making designs for the logo etc. |
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well, Im on there, I got no complaints. as for logo and name, im not a good artist and I have no good ideas at the moment so I really cant help you.. |
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I'll drop "Home Recording productions" and go straight to make partner with you on this new VRLabel if you want ;) |
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Don't forget this link : http://www.11-hour.com/production/tech_pressing.asp It is fucking great. There is a place out at Hackney who will press up 1000 white labels for £685 + vat. Anyway check out the link and decided on cd or vinyl. |
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that rooster is really crowin' ;) i might put up some music myself in the future... i'll keep ya posted :D |
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wow, 1000? might have to look into that! |
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nice, quernstone -- does this mean you're in? (man, i feel like dickie attenborough in The Great Escape) |
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why don't you bring in Home Recordings junktion? it would probably be very useful as a template :) |
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http://www.curvedpressings.com/CurvedPressings.htm |
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yeah...good idea... =D |
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what if: Instead of pressing cd's right away, we make a site where you can vote for favorite songs by the artist that are hooked up with this VRLabel. And the best artists get printed on cd. comments? |
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Good idea, how about let anyone (not just members of the label) vote on what music to release? That way it's more to do with the quality of the music & less with politics... |
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well, that seems kinda unfair to release SOME peoples music and not others.there are currently 40 people in this little project. im compiling a little excel document now. |
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yeah, sure... It'l be like a gigantic music-site where artist that already have there shit on the net, can get it rated |
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BUT, as long as thier music is made avalible somehow (i.e. by downloading) i guess thats fine by me. |
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NO....everyone who want's should join, but not everyone get's to be certified and signed. It's all up to the votes |
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yeah...but it will be like collecting all internet artist and putting them up on one big bulletin board so people can rate them |
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ah, i see, i misunderstood, my bad |
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man, i want in on this. i dont know the details, but im about to release a vinyl (local aus) its me and 43 other guys. weve got 4mins each on a 7" which is being pressed hear for $100au=50 copies each. so, if i find where this is being pressed, this means we can get 7" (16min @ 331/3) for $400au. now the best thing about this to you guys is that the au $ is worth shit to the pound. i think our $ is worth about 0.38 pound. so i could (if i find where this place is) get 200 7" vinyls for around 160 pound. dont know if this helps at all. my typing is shite, im drunk. but im not shitting, and i think the numbers are right. someone go to a currency conversion site and see what the aus dollar is worth in pound. i'll try find out where these things are being pressed. |
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http://www.xe.net/ucc/ |
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here we go, 1AUD=0.571980USD |
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Ok, if we go for that deal that Quernstone mentioned above which is 685 pounds, then 1,000 vinyls would cost us $1,024.69 in US dollars. |
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man, were never gonna move 1000 vinyls.....trust me, ive run label s before. i had a hard time moving 500cd's |
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that was just an FYI type of thing, just a basis for comparison, not really an idea for concideration. |
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But 1000 worldwide? Each member tries to sell 10 to record shops? |
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true, but we must also average in the cost of shipping. which can be a real bitch of a price. |
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it can be done.... this is sounding to be a really good idea lads !! nice work! :D |
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besides, any of you got $1000 just laying around? im pretty tight for money as it is... |
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i also think it can be done ... maybe we can figure something out pricewise with a shipping service if we use this ONE for ALL our mailing?! and like ceri said - if we do it all worldwide we shall move a thousand me thinks |
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ASk phob to set up a donation thing like he did when he lost all the files. That way we coudl all donate £10 or something. Good idea? |
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being in brisbane which is a pretty dodgy australian town... i can only think of 2 stores i could possibly get to carry unless i go on an expedition to sydney which isnt going to happen soon as far as my cash situation goes, gimme a couple months to get on my feet, i just moved into a new apartment and all my bills and bonds are flooding in. |
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thing is - $1,000 is only $10 each per pressing per release - not that much is it? i would be willing to put up at least £100 for the website and stuff, and then other contributions after that :) when i move to america and get my better job i'll be willing to put in even more money - i'm serious about doing this and i realise you need at least SOME money to make money this weak currency thing was something i had thought about - because we are global, we can get the cheapest way of doing things :) but anyways, let's not get ahead of ourselves - first thing to do is to pool our talents together and put them in one place so we can gawp at them ;) vision is everything mi amigoes |
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How about people who put up the inital money get a return before the artists for the first batch of releases? It'd encourage more people to put some money in... |
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sounds all nifty and such =] |
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that could be an idea ceri :) also, i was HOPING we could BUILD UP to releasing a record a month -- get some rhythm going and such -- cos there's a lotta musicians here and they'll all want their piece of the pie :D a compilation first would definately be best - like a followup to aktium's excellent a phexation :) |
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Yeah, a sampler with an URL on the inlay to the voting page saying which one (artist) do you want to hear more of would be a good idea. |
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ill give as much money as I am able too, i like the idea intial people get first dibbs idea. i say or comp be entitled something of .nu |
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yeah, i'll be able to throw some money into the hat... $20-$30AUD ;) |
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man, i still think we could just start with good quaility CD-R's. as long as you let people know what there getting, it shouldnt be a problem. as long as youve got decent artwork, evrything will be sweet. and that way we can keep the prices way down. we can burn them as needed. just set up a paypal account and where away. |
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yea, Ive got about 200-300 stashed away and a 24x10x40 CD burner, Im ready and rarin to go! |
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to begin, i believe it is wise to set up a website [amazing design is a necessity] with streaming audio [real audio] so that people can hear the music, but not keep it. if we want to get anywhere, i don't think it would be wise to put up mp3s. we should also have [as hepburnenthorpe said] CD-Rs with soem real swank art/design that contain a compilation of the 'most professional sounding' artists on the board. One track each. also in the package would be the addy to the site and the q > which 'insert label name here' artist would you like to hear more from in the future? some record stores will let you put some titles in their shop on a consignment basis. i'm not sure how swift vinyls would go around here [toronto, canada]. in fact i'm pretty sure it would be hard to move them for this kind of music. electronic listeners here use CDs, and even DJs are turning to CDs over vinyl. [last evening i was speaking with a resident DJ who plays at three clubs a week and he uses CDs for better sound, portability, accesability, etc] |
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yeah i agree that vinyl is doomed - also, this CD-R business could be a viable way to get our name/artists established - i don't believe it's too hard to make them look professional... ...the first thing i want to get down is a website - so if any netheads out there know how much it would cost, and the best way to go about getting a host, tell ASAP :) after we register it, it's down to the slick designers to get to work :) |
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The only problem with CDRs is they don't work on old players. |
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