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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:20 [#00271472]
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ok... very important question for the musicians out
there...

i am saving up money, and sellin my old equipment.

What should i get?

do i get a sampler?
a digitial-analouge synth?
a sound modual?

i just dont know anymore

i was originally thinking sound modual, so i could have good
real sounds...

but the i thought, that i wouldnt be able to make personal
sounds...

so i though a synth perhaps, or even a sampler...

i just dont know... thoughts?

im looking in the 2000-2500 range i guess


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-17 23:22 [#00271475]
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Get a Theromin!!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:23 [#00271478]
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hehehe

um... gonna have to pass on that one :)


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-17 23:31 [#00271486]
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Don't buy music stuff go on holiday.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:33 [#00271488]
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gotta buy music stuff!

its my livelyhood, its my purpose in life, its all i love

well not all i love... but you get the idea


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 23:39 [#00271496]
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holiday does sound tempting!

I dunno what u shud buy... go hhere and ask on the
message board, maybe. Matt on there knows ALOT about this
stuff, he's loaded, he's always getting new toys!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271497]
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thanks


 

offline WeaklingChild from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271498]
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what about an akai mpc-4000.
all DJ Shadow used to make his new album was two of these
(linked together) and Pro-Tools Editing sofware.



 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271499]
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tell us what you already have (ie a synth isnt much good if
you have nothing to record to...)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:41 [#00271501]
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well...

i currently have an mc-303, a dr-770, and a dr-202

however, im selling them all

currenlty ive written everything on reason, just cause of
the flexability


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-17 23:47 [#00271518]
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get Kontakt the soft sampler (if you have pretty good
computer) you can use real sounds as well as mangle the crap
out of anything. Its only worth it though if you have a midi
controller low latency sound card etc etc though. Maybe you
should upgrade your pc?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:49 [#00271526]
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i have a MAC

iMAC 500 megs


 

offline jimisteel from SLC (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:57 [#00271535]
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I would suggest you get a sampler first. I prefer deicated
hardware over computers.
Examples: Emu E6400 ultra, E4XT ultra, E5000 ultra, ESI
4000, ESI 2000. Akai S6000, S5000, S3000Xl, S2000, S1100,
Akai MPC 60, MPC 3000, or MPC2000XL. Ensoniq EPS 16,or
ASR10. Roland sp303. Then you would want to add a mixer,
then effects processors, compressors & limiters. After that
a syth, or sound module with a controller keyboard



 

offline Mr_Flappypants from Louisville (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:57 [#00271539]
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.....................i know i sound stupid asking this but,
i have to learn some time

whats a sampler?!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:58 [#00271543]
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well... i am currently writting full tracks right now... im
just not content with the sound quality...

so would a sampler be enough?

and i like control.. so i dont want to sample loops... i
write all my melodies... i know i could use individual
sounds,... but dont those sound banks cost alot?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:00 [#00271548]
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a sampler is a machine... that records things.

you can then manipulate those sounds.

its very powerful.

i could "sample" different drum sounds, and then put them
together and write a whole drum part with them

i could "sample" a sound like a bass guitar, and then i
modify the sound, so i can have it in various pitches, not
just the samed pitch, so i can write bass lines with it
etc



 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:02 [#00271553]
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in my view buying a hardware sampler today would be a huge
mistake. Hardware synths are still worth it but a hardware
sampler costs tons of money for what you get and you are
stuck editing on a tiny LCD display, its not like you are
getting a fatter sound as you might with a synth.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:03 [#00271555]
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so... soft synth?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:03 [#00271557]
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i meant soft sampler


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:05 [#00271560]
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get a softsampler and a new computer. Get the best computer
you can afford.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:06 [#00271563]
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oi... that could be hard...

my parents just bought me this iMAC

so like a MAC G4?


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 00:11 [#00271569]
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Zeus, I'd agree with Jimisteel. Get a sampler first (if you
already have a computer running a sequencer, of course).
With a sampler you will always be using unique sounds, and
you can pretty much create anything you want out of samples.

If you're going for a soft sampler, try Emagic's EXS-24 (it
runs as a plugin inside Logic Audio), and I believe there's
another new good soft sampler about to hit the market, but
i've forgotten it's name)


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:12 [#00271571]
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I used to have a Mac G4 733 and I was running songs in
Cubase that were eating %80 of my CPU in stop mode, I sold
it and got an Athlon XP2000 and those exact same tracks are
using %10 of my CPU juice. If you have $2000 US, I would
definitely say get a new PC and Reaktor. You can get a top
of the line PC for $500 US no problem and Reaktor costs $250
or something. Then get a good sound card with good ASIO
drivers and a USB controller keyboard. That whole lot will
cost like $1200 max, so if your budget is $2000-2500 thats
no problem.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 00:14 [#00271573]
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but be careful of athlon incompatibilty problems with
certain sound cards.
the athlons are definitely fast, but not 100% tested with
every sound-card.


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:15 [#00271574]
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thats true but if you do a little research you can have a
rock solid system. Im using a Delta 66 and it works
flawlessly. RME also make very good soundcards.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:42 [#00271635]
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but i thought macs where the best for music

i have cubasis right now

if i got a sampler... where do i get sounds? i dont want to
have to buy sample cds and stuff.

im not talking about loops. i mean like, real sounds. like a
string, that i could write a string part for, or a bass, or
flute etc.

but i also want to make my own sounds

?


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-06-18 02:15 [#00271789]
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Macs used to be the best for music but this is no longer the
case. PCs are just as stable and you get much more bang for
your money.


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 03:02 [#00271829]
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is this true?
why do big time producers and movie scorers, etc all by
G4's?
i don't think that PCs are anywhere near as close in quality
as mac's.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:11 [#00271839]
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yeah, i go to a music school, and all the computors in the
synth department use MACs

although, for gigasampler, they use pcs, but still use the
MACs as the main sequencer etc. then the PC is just for
sampled sounds... or something...



 


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