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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:20 [#00271472]
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ok... very important question for the musicians out there...
i am saving up money, and sellin my old equipment.
What should i get?
do i get a sampler? a digitial-analouge synth? a sound modual?
i just dont know anymore
i was originally thinking sound modual, so i could have good real sounds...
but the i thought, that i wouldnt be able to make personal sounds...
so i though a synth perhaps, or even a sampler...
i just dont know... thoughts?
im looking in the 2000-2500 range i guess
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-17 23:22 [#00271475]
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Get a Theromin!!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:23 [#00271478]
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hehehe
um... gonna have to pass on that one :)
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-17 23:31 [#00271486]
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Don't buy music stuff go on holiday.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:33 [#00271488]
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gotta buy music stuff!
its my livelyhood, its my purpose in life, its all i love
well not all i love... but you get the idea
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 23:39 [#00271496]
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holiday does sound tempting!
I dunno what u shud buy... go hhere and ask on the message board, maybe. Matt on there knows ALOT about this stuff, he's loaded, he's always getting new toys!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271497]
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thanks
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271498]
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what about an akai mpc-4000. all DJ Shadow used to make his new album was two of these (linked together) and Pro-Tools Editing sofware.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-17 23:40 [#00271499]
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tell us what you already have (ie a synth isnt much good if you have nothing to record to...)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:41 [#00271501]
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well...
i currently have an mc-303, a dr-770, and a dr-202
however, im selling them all
currenlty ive written everything on reason, just cause of the flexability
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-17 23:47 [#00271518]
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get Kontakt the soft sampler (if you have pretty good computer) you can use real sounds as well as mangle the crap out of anything. Its only worth it though if you have a midi controller low latency sound card etc etc though. Maybe you should upgrade your pc?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:49 [#00271526]
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i have a MAC
iMAC 500 megs
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:57 [#00271535]
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I would suggest you get a sampler first. I prefer deicated hardware over computers.
Examples: Emu E6400 ultra, E4XT ultra, E5000 ultra, ESI 4000, ESI 2000. Akai S6000, S5000, S3000Xl, S2000, S1100,
Akai MPC 60, MPC 3000, or MPC2000XL. Ensoniq EPS 16,or ASR10. Roland sp303. Then you would want to add a mixer, then effects processors, compressors & limiters. After that a syth, or sound module with a controller keyboard
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:57 [#00271539]
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.....................i know i sound stupid asking this but, i have to learn some time
whats a sampler?!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-17 23:58 [#00271543]
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well... i am currently writting full tracks right now... im just not content with the sound quality...
so would a sampler be enough?
and i like control.. so i dont want to sample loops... i write all my melodies... i know i could use individual sounds,... but dont those sound banks cost alot?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:00 [#00271548]
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a sampler is a machine... that records things.
you can then manipulate those sounds.
its very powerful.
i could "sample" different drum sounds, and then put them together and write a whole drum part with them
i could "sample" a sound like a bass guitar, and then i modify the sound, so i can have it in various pitches, not just the samed pitch, so i can write bass lines with it etc
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:02 [#00271553]
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in my view buying a hardware sampler today would be a huge mistake. Hardware synths are still worth it but a hardware sampler costs tons of money for what you get and you are stuck editing on a tiny LCD display, its not like you are getting a fatter sound as you might with a synth.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:03 [#00271555]
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so... soft synth?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:03 [#00271557]
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i meant soft sampler
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:05 [#00271560]
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get a softsampler and a new computer. Get the best computer you can afford.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:06 [#00271563]
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oi... that could be hard...
my parents just bought me this iMAC
so like a MAC G4?
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 00:11 [#00271569]
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Zeus, I'd agree with Jimisteel. Get a sampler first (if you already have a computer running a sequencer, of course).
With a sampler you will always be using unique sounds, and you can pretty much create anything you want out of samples.
If you're going for a soft sampler, try Emagic's EXS-24 (it runs as a plugin inside Logic Audio), and I believe there's another new good soft sampler about to hit the market, but i've forgotten it's name)
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:12 [#00271571]
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I used to have a Mac G4 733 and I was running songs in Cubase that were eating %80 of my CPU in stop mode, I sold it and got an Athlon XP2000 and those exact same tracks are using %10 of my CPU juice. If you have $2000 US, I would definitely say get a new PC and Reaktor. You can get a top of the line PC for $500 US no problem and Reaktor costs $250 or something. Then get a good sound card with good ASIO drivers and a USB controller keyboard. That whole lot will cost like $1200 max, so if your budget is $2000-2500 thats no problem.
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 00:14 [#00271573]
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but be careful of athlon incompatibilty problems with certain sound cards.
the athlons are definitely fast, but not 100% tested with every sound-card.
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-18 00:15 [#00271574]
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thats true but if you do a little research you can have a rock solid system. Im using a Delta 66 and it works flawlessly. RME also make very good soundcards.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 00:42 [#00271635]
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but i thought macs where the best for music
i have cubasis right now
if i got a sampler... where do i get sounds? i dont want to have to buy sample cds and stuff.
im not talking about loops. i mean like, real sounds. like a string, that i could write a string part for, or a bass, or flute etc.
but i also want to make my own sounds
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-06-18 02:15 [#00271789]
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Macs used to be the best for music but this is no longer the case. PCs are just as stable and you get much more bang for your money.
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skodt
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 03:02 [#00271829]
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is this true? why do big time producers and movie scorers, etc all by G4's?
i don't think that PCs are anywhere near as close in quality as mac's.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 03:11 [#00271839]
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yeah, i go to a music school, and all the computors in the synth department use MACs
although, for gigasampler, they use pcs, but still use the MACs as the main sequencer etc. then the PC is just for sampled sounds... or something...
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