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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-14 12:21 [#00266121]
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A LONG time ago i started coding with visual basic. but didn't get to far due to moving. Now I've decided to re-learn some. One of the most interesting languages, infact the one i'm starting to learn at the moment, is C#. Now, i know all about it's major simularities between it, and C++, but my question is this; Will i be fine coding for C# in a C++ compiler? I'm pretty sure that i can't. I also can't seem to find a C#, or ".net" compiler. what's the formal name of this so i can search the p2p clients.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-14 13:14 [#00266159]
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You won't be able use a C++ compiler for C#....C# is part of MS .NET framework & currently only MS do a c~ compiler which I think it's all part of MS Visual Studio.NET .... that probably what you need to look for...
Have a hunt on MSDN or MS's website as well...you might be able to download it for free off MS anyway...
Haven't used it myself so not 100% sure but MS keep bombarding me with info about .NET and that seems to be the package they mention a lot...
Let us know how you get on...
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Ctrl Alt Del
from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2002-06-14 13:18 [#00266164]
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Yea, cause Im learning C++ so I would be interested to know as well.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-14 13:24 [#00266169]
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you need to download the "Microsoft .NET Framework Software Development Kit"...
The full thing is pretty big (130mb) but contains everything you need...
its at http://msdn.microsoft.com/code/sample.asp?url=/msdn-files... ....
check out the C# column at msdn.microsoft.com ... the article called Bits, Flames, and Links gives loads of info..(I'd give you the direct link but MS bing MS hide the addy ;(...).. but yeah, read that article...
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-14 13:25 [#00266171]
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Features....
Command-line compilers for Visual C++® (cl.exe), C# (csc.exe), JScript® (jsc.exe), and Visual Basic® (vbc.exe); the C++ compiler understands the new Managed Extensions
Samples (many written in C#) and nmake.exe to build them Enough of the .NET Runtime and .NET Framework to support the compilers and samples
The usual link.exe A command-line debugger (cordbg.exe) and a GUI debugger (dbgurt.exe).
An Intermediate Language (IL) assembler (ilasm.exe), disassembler (ildasm.exe), and validator (peverify.exe)
A host of other tools for application configuration and deployment, WinForm design and viewing, security management, and JIT management
Quite thorough documentation on the runtime, framework, tools, and languages; I'm actually pretty impressed by the quantity and quality of docs provided
Notable omissions:
Visual J++® Visual Studio®. This means no editor, no integrated debugger, and no integrated help (you can work around this limitation somewhat; see below)
On-demand product and customer support from Microsoft
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-14 13:26 [#00266172]
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gulp...I'm not looking forward to learning that lot tho I guess I might have to in the end...
I'm still not 100% convinced it's gonna take off...despite all the pushing from MS...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-14 13:34 [#00266180]
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Thanks for hooking me up wioth the link. man, you've helped me to many times on this board...what is this? #6?
anyways: "I'm still not 100% convinced it's gonna take off...despite
all the pushing from MS... " I feel that this will be huge. in a few years, when internet speeds are a bit faster, and everyone has high-speed access, the .net enviroment will be huge. I'm a bit skeptical on the premise that i don't like micorsoft ruling the world.
on a diffrent note...how come there aren't any big time competitors? Like a japanese counterpart? the japanese always come out with "updated" counterpart corporations.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-14 13:44 [#00266186]
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no problem...
yeah, it's got the potential to be huge & more than likely will be...it's just a worry that our entire experience of the net will be via MS...they arn't an innovative company and .NET is them trying to be...
But I don't really know enough about it to really judge...at the moment it seems to be such a huge-monumental structure and it's kinda tricky to see the big-picture...
if you find a good overview anywhere, let us know the link...
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-06-14 13:44 [#00266187]
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Cocoa is the way forward if you have a Mac!
HAs anyone here done Java programming on a MAc?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-14 14:41 [#00266265]
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i can't fucking install this crap! i get an error message saying that i need NT 4.0 or higher?! WTF! there better be a win 98/2k/me version...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-14 14:43 [#00266266]
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I'm just jumping to conclusions...the web site says that i can use XP, and 2k...i think i'm going to dl 2k because of my low memory on this comp (96 MB).
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-06-14 14:59 [#00266282]
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anyone have windows 2000? is is there a better next gen OS that'll run fine with a 45o Mhz, and 96 mb ram? I can't find win 2000 on the p2p's. If you have it, please e-mail me and we can set up an ftp trade.
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-14 15:25 [#00266310]
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download lcc-win32 that's a nice program where you can write programs in it and it has a built in compiler, you can download it here
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