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then please check out my version of one of his Inventions -- it's less than one minute long so it won't take long to download (opens in new window) thanks very much |
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all i got is some fucking "sportsfinder" page |
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oops, i wrote anglefire by mistak... my apologies mr worth |
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Well that's probably the best thing I've heard from you IMO, but I don't know how much of it is your own creation since I've never heard the original bach tune. I pretty much only liked the melody, the drums... I don't know if they added to it, probably not, they didn't really subtract much though. wouldve been better without them I think. It's a great melody, great polyphony (more than one, not necessarily exactly 2...;). |
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It'd be hard for me to create polyphony like that, I still am learning how to interweave melodies in ways other than a simple copy/paste round. But rounds make just about any simple melody sound much better. The best results I've had are making one "prototype melody" and then have different voices or octaves go along this prototype, but at slightly different time locations of the notes (but the notes stay true to the prototype at the time they strike)... but stuff like that bach melody pretty much baffle me by making it sound "correct" yet not using simple rounds. |
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try making a melody which harmonises with itself half a bar later &tc |
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ok, here is some advice. im assuming you have some basic theory, and you are using sevenths chords. a great way to work on melodies, and ocunter melodies, is to make guide tone lines. then from that, you add flourishes. to specify ... say you have a G minor 7 chord, moving to C minor 7 chord, moving to D dom7 chord. The notes in G minor 7 are, G (the root) Bflat (the third) D (the fifth) and F (the seventh) The notes in C minor 7 are C (the root), Eflat (the third) G (the fifth) and Bflat (the seventh) D major is D (the root) Fsharp (the third, from the harmonic minor scale) A (the fifth) and C (the seventh) the guide tones are always the 3rds and 7ths. Now what you do, is you take only those notes, and you keep the same note, or the one closest to it, every time you make a chord change. this supplies you with exactly 2 differnt guide tone lines. So, say we start the first guide tone line on Bflat (the 3rd of G minor), when we move to the C minor 7 chord, we stay on Bflat, because we want to stay on the same note, or the note closest to it. Then, when we move to D dom7, we move to C sharp, because it is the closest third or seventh to B flat. so our first guide tone line is Bflat, Bflat, C sharp. the second one, we will start on F (the 7th of G minor 7) we move to the C minor 7 chord, and the clostest note (that is either a is third or seventh) is Eflat. then we move to the D major chord, and the closest note is F. so the second guide tone line goes : F, Eb, F. now, you add flourishes, like neighbor tones, other chord tones, and chromatics, and passings etc. you now have 2 seperate melodies, that will harmonize. (just make sure the flourishes dont overlap) and basic rule of thumb... it works if it sounds good. if this doesnt work, then mess with it a bit. this is a jazzy approach, just so you know... but if you work with it enough, you can get away from a jazzy sound. but yeah, just use your ears. theyll tell you what works hope this was hel |
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*hope this was helpful -Zeus |
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as helpful as i'm sure that was to w M w, he would be better off buying a book on compositional theory, one on harmony and one on melody - that's how i started (although i took music in college too, which kind of helped) |
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hm....... well the backwards sounds for the melodies was cool, i liked that personally... i dont think percussion, especially of this nature, suites this kind of music...... i did like the chord they finish on, nice work.. it sounded good reversed like that |
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ooh, also on ur page was a link for a prog. that kills pop ups...... how does this work? any side affects i should know of before i try it? and can u still allow some to pop up? |
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*effects, whatever |
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01) i didnt use any backwards effect! just skillfull programming ;) hehe 02) popup killer is good - no side effects that i've ever noticed, and i have it running all the time! |
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actually that was some pretty confusing stuff to me, probably because i"m not familiar with the definitions of some words used... but I have to bounce this thread up so I can actually read it instead of quickly glancing (otherwise I'll forget) when I have time later today. |
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um... well I tried reading some music books in the college library when I was attending, but they all pretty much required that you know how to read sheet music (i don't) I found one book in some other library that focused more on the science behind it, but still it was confusing. They mentioned how there were several sub notes or something in one single note and I guess that's what you meant. . . do you know any good simpler book that particularly helped you? |
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learning sheet music isn't hard -- and the rewards are great - even the internet would probably have enough resources to help you on your way |
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