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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:35 [#00240279]
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this isnt the typical one though. i was just wondering why orion is never a part of those conversations cause orion fruityloops and reason all seem highly comparable programs to me. ive used them all and although they are each quite different they are along the same lines as far as what you can do and how much they cost. its weird to me.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 11:42 [#00240281]
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i can't tell much about reason, tested it not enough, but it seems to very complex, all these modules and sequencers, samplers and synths. it looks a bit circumstantial, the pattern knobs from the drummachine, the sequence isn't long, just 16 steps, can't remember exactly... i mean, all this modules and displays etc. ; i don't wanna scroll around on my live gigs ;)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 11:45 [#00240283]
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I don't know. I put fruityloops a notch or two above reason. And orion seemed only usefull for shit like trance music.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:47 [#00240286]
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i felt the same way! i cant stand reason i was mostly going with the price(come to think of it it cost way more) and what people claim about it. but i still think the 3 programs are quite comparable in the end. i like orion alot though in the end. fruityloops is a long time old friend and really has more but certain features in orion help me lay out songs in a better fassion. much more intuitively. but my songs always and forever start with a loop made in fruityloops.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:48 [#00240287]
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any sampling program can rise above any style of music genre, that is the soul of what sampling is. i dont understand why people claim certain programs only make certain music.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 11:51 [#00240288]
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Well, thats just what I got when I opened orion, it just radiated 'trance music'.
Besides, the midi is all fucked up on my computer, and I can't generate any noise in orion. Opened it for a couple minutes and then closed that shit down.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 11:52 [#00240290]
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d'you think it makes a sense using a hardware sampler with fruityloops ?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 11:53 [#00240291]
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It might make a sence, but not much more.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:53 [#00240292]
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is your midi messed up in general or only when you use orion? cause i had a problem using midi when i was using orion 2.75 i havent tried to see if 3.0 fixed the problem yet.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:55 [#00240293]
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actually using a hardware sampler with fruityloops is something ive considered. with a high end sampler you could have multiple outputs for different samples running into your mixing board. i like fruityloops alot compared to alot of hardware sequencers ive tried and its sound tweaking capabilities and such all are wonderful.
at a time i was considering buying a really nice rack sampler and just setting the laptop right on top of it on the desk running fruityloops.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 11:56 [#00240294]
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In general. Well, not general... but it fucks up with orion, and a few other programs.
I am choked... I have to remove reaktor from my puter in order to fix some baaad registry issues my computer seems to have.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 11:58 [#00240295]
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agh, i hate computer problems. i seem to at the moment be over mine but for a while i couldnt do anything with midi and i couldnt get my native instruments to install without crashing the computer every single start up. it was horrid.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 12:00 [#00240296]
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i just have an AKAI S2000 Sampler, but without the 8 output board, but i think bout that. A DR770 Drummachine from Boss/Roland also. The Alesis MMT8 with the Doepfer Drehbank seems to be a perfect sequencing solution for Fruityloops IMO.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 12:01 [#00240299]
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wow normally i am up on hardware but i have no idea about the mmt8 and the doepfer item. how do they compare in your mind to fruityloops?
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 12:04 [#00240300]
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i would highly sudjest getting the 8 outputs for your rack though. tweaking everything in a mixer with eqs and such is really nice and you can route everything seperately to effects and such. and still have sounds coming out of fruity too.
being able to fade a real mixer knob up only on a kick drum or certain sounds without the others being affected is pleasant. you need multiple outs for that.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 12:10 [#00240306]
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the Alesis MMT8 is one of the best pattern and song sequencer ever created, it's an old one but very stable and easy to use. you can turn off/on patterns in realtime, and fruityloops do the same, so it's perfect to changing songs/patterns with the knobs on it, so you can modulate all the controllers you want with the Doepfer Drehbank fruityloops is so nice, i just do a right-klick on knob or whatever "link to controller". let the mmt8 start, choose/change your patterns whenever you want and squelch it with the drehbank !
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 12:13 [#00240315]
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www.mmt8.com sorry
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 12:16 [#00240326]
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i thought the yamaha rm1x was excellent sequencer. but in the end i went with the computer. there are still features on the rm1x i miss though.
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from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-29 12:28 [#00240345]
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hm.. dunno much about the rm1x, it's an all in one, no ? with memory for sounds i belive..
i need a powerful notebook for live gigs... i'm on think bout my sampler... fruityloops can do everything what the sampler does..
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 12:31 [#00240350]
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yes but fruityloops cant do multiple outs... believe me if youve tried doing things that way youd know how nice it is.
the rm1x wasnt an all in one but it was one of the best sequencers ever. the sounds pretty much suck too but with a good synth and sampler you could do great stuff with it.
the yamaha rs7000 or something like that was an all in one i heard great things about. its a big silver thing. im told by people i respect oppinions of that its great great stuff.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-05-29 12:33 [#00240353]
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the thing about the rm1x that struck me is that you could control things much more live than alot of other groove box type machines. the velocity knob can do great things if you know what youre doing. nothing else has a velocity knob.
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-29 17:16 [#00240916]
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hmmmm I haven't used Reason but BT (I'm sure you guys have heard of this d00d) has published alot of the stuff he has produced with Reason!!!! He's a professional at that business, so Reason must be good. As for Fruityloops. . . that's what I use, and it's great, but I don't think any modern, popular electronic artists use it to produce their music (it's more for beginners, I think, even though it's got many capabilities!)
But what about Acid? Yah, I know you have to buy the sample cd's seperately, but it's still possibly the best looping/sequencing/music-making software out there, I think.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 17:18 [#00240918]
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What are you talking about? A lot of published artists use fruityloops.
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-29 17:21 [#00240923]
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Like who?. . . .
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-05-29 17:41 [#00240949]
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like who? like twat?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-29 17:42 [#00240952]
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Proem. Bit Medler. There are quite a few others that I can't quite think of right now.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-05-29 17:43 [#00240953]
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Reason has tons of usefull samples.....
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