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Fancy doing me a favour?... Basically... I'd be Intrigued to hear your thoughts on the Artist, Damien Hirst.... There is a reason .. an innocent, on I sure you - so whatever thoughts woul be greatefully received...even one word ones.... I'll show you the completed piece containing your words once it's complete... Thanks in Advance.... |
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like most of the so-called modern artists, he seems like a blagger of the highest order. as long as you can describe a peice of shit in an artistic and articulate way you can get away with anything. |
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hmm, dificult his work is very varied. i find it hard to comment on his work. I remember an instaltion peice that was basically a chemists room, i thought that was crap, i couldn't see any (if) meaning. I suppose i like the shark in formalsehyde probably coz of the title and it's really spooky. unfortunately he's been tagged with that brit/pop art label. I think he's capable of a lot more. I wish i could afford one of his books.\ james turrel is more my type of thing |
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I think he's basically pretty talentless. To me, art is something that makes me wonder "how did they do that?", something that takes a certain degree of skill. Hence the reason I like Aphex Twin: I listen to his music, and I wonder how he created it. And I don't think that I personally could create music exactly like Aphex Twin's, and I don't think anybody else could other than the man himself. I think that almost anyone could do what Damien Hirst has done however. The same with all of those artists: Tracy Emin, etc. They are just a bunch of talentless chancers who got lucky by being in the right place at the right time. I daresay they are quite confident and probably rather intelligent people, probably with a good deal of business sense, but as far as I'm concerned what they produce just isn't art. I accept the fact that many people see it as being art. Art by it's very nature is a very subjective thing. |
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I know little of Damien Hirst apart from the fuss about the formeldahyde stuff. The Fat Les thing doesn't impress me. I recently saw some photos by a guy who took pictures of his family in a council house. They were great. Anyone know who I'm talking about? |
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yes but i can't remember the guys name. is that the one with the drunken father. and a picture of a cat (erm) flying and a really messy flat? |
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I see art as being a refined perceptual thing. The images don't need to be perfect... some of my favorite pictures are just simple shapes... but it needs to show... I don't know. I can't describe it. It needs to look good above everything else. I wish I had some of my old pictures online. I could give you an example of what I love in art. Its seeing strength in simplicity kind of. If I had continued to do art I would have had a couple shows by now. I just have to add that I hate abstract art. |
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anyone seen that nasty bodyworks stuff? where some guy has chopped up lot's of dead bodys and frozen whole nervous systems and muscles etc in that pespex type stuff that u used to to use when u were a kid? nasty strange germans!! |
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That's it mate. They were in the Guardian a while back. I'll have to investigate. I'm not really up on art at all. I do love photography though. I should make the effort to see what's about. I saw some amazing photos from the Vietnam war at an exhibition in Cardiff. It sounds really crap but they were so real, you could have been there. |
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yeh, photographys really my thing. try andreas gursky, but it's best to see at an exhibition as the pictures are huge james turrel is a "light artist" and builds rooms to give you strange visual experiences. in fact he bought an extinct volcano and is currently hollowing it out to make it a work of art. check him out it's hard to explain |
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Anybody can take animal parts and put them on display and call it art. I know this for a fact. |
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I'm much more of a fan of David Hockney's work, Hirsts stuff isn't too inspiring for me.. |
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I recognise and respect him as an excellent artist. |
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Confliciting views...good to hear... Personally, I'ma major fan...his work moves me really beyond words...classic & modern... if you can, get hold of his recent bio ON MY WAY TO WOEK by D hirst & Gorden Burn; it really does get behind this one trick-pony tag he's been lumbled with.... try to igonore hte hype about this group...they've produced the best work in at least the last 20 yrs.... B£N: yeah, hockney is smooth...just finished his Secret Knowledge book..(35 quid but well worht it...)...really opened my eyes to the sweep of art history.... |
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PS> These fragments are gonna be used ina new piece of Flash work for G3RM.ORG - now that spring is here...;)... I'll keep you posted... |
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An artist who jumped on and capitalised on his whim for an emerging possibility > he did something that no-one else had done before or at least in a WAY that hadn't been done before, And he did it before anyone else did, creating for himself the tag of being "Original" In that sense he is as much a marketeer/capitalist of the moment than an "Artist" in the traditional sense> He's more about trendy thinking than quality of product IMO An opportunist He's also one third of Fat Les too "Vindaloo Vindaloo La Laaaa !!" The thing i think is, all this "cutting Edge of Art" thing is not Evolutionary, but INVOLUTIONARY. The product may look different and novel, but the thought process behind it is forever the same_____ Just do something that will make people say "WHY ?" To be a good artist you just need to get a reaction, good or bad ... and if you get the press saying "This isn't art !!!! Its Shit !!! " Thats good enough to make a name for yourself Look at the charts, Number 1 pop groups are mostly crap, but they have a successful formula. The same applies to Hirst |
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That said , I have only seen a limited amount of his work and I should look into it more , I 'll try to get along to the Tate Modern soonish (I always say that but really I'm gonna do it !! ) |
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jand> have you seen the Observer article on Banksy ? a Bristol anarchist stencil-artist revered by the likes of Orbital & Massive attack He spray-paints graffitti through stencils and has done some wicked stuff , comic A la Dom Joly/ Chris Morris , and Political EG campaigns for Greenpeace .. worth checking out ... |
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yeah...was so surprised to see in him there....+ plus that cruxifiction thing (another thread I reckon...)... He's really well known now...got the cover the Creative Review a month back.... Still waiting for his new book to turn up...ordered it a while back but he hand does em so thats the reason for the delay...I hope.... Theres a great little book called STENCIl GRAFFETTI out the mo (with Banksy + cru)...only a tenner...Thams & Hudsen I thiink...)...Sten Graf I hope doesn't get tired to quickly ....I do some myself... |
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I'll try and check that book out man :) I'd like to upload a pic of some graffitti art I did when I lived in Yorkshire... It was of Missiles aimed up at the Police 'copter that flew around over our house at night... I don't hate all laws but They have a noise pollution law and then go and keep U up all night LOL :D KABOOM BOOM BOOM !!! 18 ft X 8 ft on a wall alongside a cycle path in Hull spray-canns were using up all my giro so I quit soon after and spent my money on books , records and "substances" instead (like ya do..) |
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