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offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 18:28 [#00231900]
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What players do you guys n gals have? (not computer based)

I have a Rio Volt SP90 which is CD based, not memory. It has
a good battery life, about 15 hours and you can fit more
than 10 hours music on a CD

I use it in my car too, plugged into the line-in of the
stereo

only £95 in Argos

it plays WMAs too!


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 18:49 [#00231914]
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I have a Rio Volt as well, and an old Rio 500. I like both
of these a lot - especially the 500 since it's so light and
has a long battery life.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 18:51 [#00231916]
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it's a shame that new mac one isn't pc compatible, it really
looks the part. well overpriced too. doesn't play wma


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 18:57 [#00231921]
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Does anyone actually listen to wma? Lack of support wouldn't
be a stopper for me.

I believe there is a 3rd party product to allow a PC to
connect to the iPod.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 19:02 [#00231923]
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if i was going to add a cd to compilation cdrom i would use
wma... a wma at the same bitrate as mp3 sounds better

they are difficult to find on the internet though

creative are meant to be making a new jukebox this year...


 

offline tunemx from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-05-23 19:40 [#00231955]
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Rio Riot beats the iPod.


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:25 [#00232029]
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You think?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:27 [#00232035]
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My mate has got a 6gb one, it's really heavy for some
reason. Good though...


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 21:28 [#00232036]
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wma cuts off too much of the audio spectrum for my tastes.
But if you can't hear the difference, don't pay the
difference.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-23 21:28 [#00232037]
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Ipod is pretty nice.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-05-23 21:32 [#00232046]
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I'm lead to believe that my iPAQ will play them....but
haven't tried yet.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:37 [#00232057]
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I've got a crap 32mb LG one. I haven't used it in about a
year as my MP3s are all 128kb/s = 30 min music :(


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 23:27 [#00232222]
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yeah capacity is the biggest drawback of solid state
players

it's strange how you can buy a 512MB DIMM but you can't buy
MP£ players with that much memory
it's not like a DIMM is huge either


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 23:38 [#00232235]
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Yeah, solid state is still really expensive, literally
thousands of times more expensive than CDR media.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 23:59 [#00232248]
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I've got a Philips EXP303 CDMP3 player....

Very nice...and pretty cheap (probably < 100 quid
now)....it's so smooth to fit 10 or so near CD quality
albums on there....I basically do one CD every 2 weeks that
has all the tracks I know I'm gonna listed to....makes life
so much easier....

Will tide me over til HD or mem based ones come down in
price....those are def the phuture....


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:02 [#00232249]
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And I always encode with LAME with the setting recomended at
R3MIX.NET....

Those guys know their stuff and I get very smooth encodes
done real quick....I don't think you can get better than
LAME for encoding stuff...plud I like to have exllent copies
for myself....


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:08 [#00232256]
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i use the LAME dll from within Audiograbber, i've been
pretty impressed with the results

what are the recommended settings?


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 00:13 [#00232260]
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For recommended settings, read this.

But in summary:

If you want to encode your mint copy of HAB2:

--alt-preset insane

For general use

--alt-preset standard

For portable devices with limited space

--alt-preset 128


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:13 [#00232261]
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Whale, where did you read that about WMA? I'm intereseted in
what really is the best quality...

What HiFi, a bristish hifi mag recently did a comparison of
"psychoacoustic" compressed formats and they reckoned ATRAC
(minidisc format) was best, then WMA then MP3
They compared a 128Kbit WMA to a 128Kbit MP3


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 00:24 [#00232278]
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See here for some recent listening tests of
128Kbit codecs. There is also another earlier test if you
look on the main page of that site.

I took part in these tests: I can actually hear some of the
higher frequencies that wma can drop in softer passages of
music. It just doesn't sound quite right to me in some
cases.

There's a nice spectrograph page of the different codecs at the
site as well.

Do you have the settings that HiFi magazine used? mp3
encoders vary wildly in quality so it's possible they used a
poor one.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:35 [#00232287]
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thats an interesting site, I'll have a good read... cheers
Whale
I'll also stay with LAME from now on

Anyone tampered with MP3Pro? what are good encoders for
that?


 


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