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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 18:28 [#00231900]
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What players do you guys n gals have? (not computer based)
I have a Rio Volt SP90 which is CD based, not memory. It has a good battery life, about 15 hours and you can fit more than 10 hours music on a CD
I use it in my car too, plugged into the line-in of the stereo
only £95 in Argos
it plays WMAs too!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 18:49 [#00231914]
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I have a Rio Volt as well, and an old Rio 500. I like both of these a lot - especially the 500 since it's so light and has a long battery life.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 18:51 [#00231916]
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it's a shame that new mac one isn't pc compatible, it really looks the part. well overpriced too. doesn't play wma
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 18:57 [#00231921]
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Does anyone actually listen to wma? Lack of support wouldn't be a stopper for me.
I believe there is a 3rd party product to allow a PC to connect to the iPod.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 19:02 [#00231923]
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if i was going to add a cd to compilation cdrom i would use wma... a wma at the same bitrate as mp3 sounds better
they are difficult to find on the internet though
creative are meant to be making a new jukebox this year...
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-05-23 19:40 [#00231955]
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Rio Riot beats the iPod.
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:25 [#00232029]
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You think?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:27 [#00232035]
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My mate has got a 6gb one, it's really heavy for some reason. Good though...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 21:28 [#00232036]
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wma cuts off too much of the audio spectrum for my tastes. But if you can't hear the difference, don't pay the difference.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-23 21:28 [#00232037]
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Ipod is pretty nice.
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-05-23 21:32 [#00232046]
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I'm lead to believe that my iPAQ will play them....but haven't tried yet.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-23 21:37 [#00232057]
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I've got a crap 32mb LG one. I haven't used it in about a year as my MP3s are all 128kb/s = 30 min music :(
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 23:27 [#00232222]
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yeah capacity is the biggest drawback of solid state players
it's strange how you can buy a 512MB DIMM but you can't buy MP£ players with that much memory
it's not like a DIMM is huge either
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-23 23:38 [#00232235]
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Yeah, solid state is still really expensive, literally thousands of times more expensive than CDR media.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-23 23:59 [#00232248]
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I've got a Philips EXP303 CDMP3 player....
Very nice...and pretty cheap (probably < 100 quid now)....it's so smooth to fit 10 or so near CD quality albums on there....I basically do one CD every 2 weeks that has all the tracks I know I'm gonna listed to....makes life so much easier....
Will tide me over til HD or mem based ones come down in price....those are def the phuture....
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:02 [#00232249]
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And I always encode with LAME with the setting recomended at R3MIX.NET....
Those guys know their stuff and I get very smooth encodes done real quick....I don't think you can get better than LAME for encoding stuff...plud I like to have exllent copies for myself....
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:08 [#00232256]
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i use the LAME dll from within Audiograbber, i've been pretty impressed with the results
what are the recommended settings?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 00:13 [#00232260]
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For recommended settings, read this.
But in summary:
If you want to encode your mint copy of HAB2:
--alt-preset insane
For general use
--alt-preset standard
For portable devices with limited space
--alt-preset 128
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:13 [#00232261]
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Whale, where did you read that about WMA? I'm intereseted in what really is the best quality...
What HiFi, a bristish hifi mag recently did a comparison of "psychoacoustic" compressed formats and they reckoned ATRAC (minidisc format) was best, then WMA then MP3
They compared a 128Kbit WMA to a 128Kbit MP3
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-24 00:24 [#00232278]
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See here for some recent listening tests of 128Kbit codecs. There is also another earlier test if you look on the main page of that site.
I took part in these tests: I can actually hear some of the higher frequencies that wma can drop in softer passages of music. It just doesn't sound quite right to me in some cases.
There's a nice spectrograph page of the different codecs at the site as well.
Do you have the settings that HiFi magazine used? mp3 encoders vary wildly in quality so it's possible they used a poor one.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-24 00:35 [#00232287]
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thats an interesting site, I'll have a good read... cheers Whale
I'll also stay with LAME from now on
Anyone tampered with MP3Pro? what are good encoders for that?
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