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I was going to buy this motherboard http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c 2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=31608&PX_Session=45 ad8303a32b86effea140f4ad4b6509 for an XP2000+, but the mobo spec says "supporting frontside bus (FSB) speeds up to 100/133 MHz" The XP2000+ is a "AMD ATHLON-XP2000+Socket A 266MHz FSB Processor " does this mean the CPU's frontside bus is too fast for it? cos it said it 'supports a full range of AMD Athlons' |
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Sockpuppet Bill Gates says: "There's nothing wrong with WINDOWS that's for sure." |
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yeah cheers |
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Your head looks almost bald.. May I have access to rubbage?! Come on it'll be fun!! Think of all the static! |
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"does this mean the CPU's frontside bus is too fast for it?" Yes, I think so. Remember an 'Athlon' is something different than an 'Athlon XP' I don't think it'll work properly on this mb. And if it works, it won't work optimally. |
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yes, you need a board that supports 266mhz bus |
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this one http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c 2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=25857 is the one below and supports an FSB up to 266mhz but I don't know if it'll support an XP2000+, any ideas? |
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Yes, I think that's a better choice |
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I've decided on an MSI one, looks overall better (if a bit more $$$) |
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I think it's always a good idea to buy the MB and CPU together if pos...it can be a bit of a minefield and it's easy to end up with a combo that works but isn't using the CPU features to the max... |
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Well cos its a Digital Audio Workstation i'm building and there have been many problems with soundcards and VIA chipset motherboards. I've ordered the motherboard and cpu tonight, just got confirmation, cheers for the help guys =) |
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MSI rules!Buy MSI! I have K7T-Turbo R Limited Edition in my computer and An regular K7T-Turbo in my other computer! They totally rock! And you can always underclock the FSB to what you want. Congrads on the new PC, gonna probably upgrade to an XP 2002+ here soon, what kind of video card you runnin? |
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This is what I ordered http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c 2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=30290 Its FSB is 200/266MHz anyway so I don't need to do anything, but surely underclocking another would have made it slower? I've jusr ordered a cheap video card since I don't play games http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c 2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=27303 I'm a bit stuck on what kind of HDD will work with the mobo, it says Ultra DMA 100....is that anything special? I was looking at a 740DX Hard Disk Drive 80GB UIDE133.....will it not run cos its 133 or UIDE? |
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Ok, UDMA 100 = data transfer @ 100MBs/sec, Its not special, just how the HD transfers data to the rest of the system. UIDE133 = ultra IDE, data transfer @ 133Mbs/sec. I have an EIDE HD, enhanced IDE. It will work, just that you wont get a 133MBs connection, just a 100MBs connection. It supports IDE so that shouldnt be a problem unless the HD is really new and the mobo is really old, because the IDE should be universal with all types of it. In plain english, it should work, just not at its full capacity. IMPORTANT!: DO NOT, DO NOT, have your HD plugged into an IDE chain with anything else but another HD of equal or greater data transfer! Becuase most IDE devices except for mid to high level hard drives run at 66MBs/sec or below, therefore slowing your hard drive down to that speed instead of 100MBs+! There should be 2 IDE ports on the mobo, plug your HD into slot one using a high speed IDE cable that will meet the data transfer of your hard drive! Then you plug your CD-ROMS, etc. into slot 2. Its good that your system runs at max FSB, which is the speed at which the CPU communicates with everything else. And yes, underclocking would make it slower, but its slower FSB or nothing at all, your choice. Im a big PC gamer so I have a GeForce 3 Ti 500 now dated by the highest model GeForce 4. Whew! |
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As for mobos, buy MSI! Dont buy Epox or Gigabyte.Abit and Ases are also top brands too. |
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And if your networking and have a broadband connection, buy a Linksys Cable/DSL router! Best networking buy ever! I am such a geek. |
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Cheers for the tips, have a read of this review of the board I ordered.. http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/mainboards/msi/k7n420pro/ its got loadsa onboard thing such as network port and sound etc...does this mean I don't need to buy a network card (i'm going to connect it to the network in the house)? If I don't that'd be pretty useful. Also, its going on about the graphics of the chipset...do I even need a graphics card? surely I do..or is even this integrated? nighty night |
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Go here www.tomshardware.com Lots of good tips and MOBO roundups. |
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Oh yea, probably should have mentioned that as well, go to Tom's hardware! Thier overclocking guide is second to none. |
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Your network card is built in, no need to worry about that, ive got hundreds of them along with about 6 extra old PCs, about 10 hard drives, 4 CD-ROMS, a couple floppy, mountains of cables, a spare DSL modem, hundreds of graphics cards, mice, etc. I have just about anything needed to build 5 or more computers. From what I can tell The graphics card is integrated, but built in ones are usually crappy and have no more than 8MB of memory. Dont even think about doing any thing 3D with one of those under the hood. |
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well i've just ordered a video card so too late! =) |
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Hehe, that would be the first thing I would buy would be a graphics card, of course, your talking to a guy who went out and spent triple his budget and got everything top notch. My system: AMD Athlon Thunderbird @ 1.2 GHZ MSI K7T-Turbo motherboard with ATA-100raid Leadtek Winfast Geforce 3 Ti 500 Built in sound(soon to be Audigity Platinum) EPO Technologies 16x DVD-ROM QPS QUE! CD-RW 24x10x40 56x CD-ROM 128MB of memory D-Link 10/100MB network card 17" Apple Macintosh monitor(yes, mac monitors will run on PCs) Sound System; JVC 4VR-5446 stereo reciever Klipsch Kg4s KLH 9915 Sanyo SS-540s Coral Audio Corp. BX-1001s Optimus 100 disc CD player. Network: Efficient Neworks Speed Stream 5360 DSL modem Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL router w/ 4 port 10/100 switch Farallon Fast Starlet 10/100 8 port hub D-Link DSS-5+ Switch 2 10/100 switch D-Link 10 hub. Thats what it takes to network: 5 PCs 1 Linux box 3 Macs I also have a very cool MDI SCSI CD-ROM server with eight 12x CD drives, I want to code a program that will let me mix all 8 at once! |
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Once again, I am such a geek! |
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B3n i would recommend gettin an ASUS mother board. i am not sure if this is true with other motherboards but with asus, you will always be able to upgrade the processor to any AMD processor. because they're all compatible. anyway, i always go asus and have never had problems upgrading AMD processors. ROCK ON!! |
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AMD= god of CPUs Ive heard ASUS is really good for overclocking. |
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Well I think Asus only make boards with a VIA chipset, which I can't get because of problems with pro soundcards. I also don't want to overclock, and I don't play games so its not important. But thanks anyway |
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266 = 2 x 133 so this MB is ok for you no MB upto now really works on 266 Intel P4 is 4 x 100 = 400 or 4 x 133 = 533 for example and yes, Asus is ok |
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