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bush´s goverment could have done something more to avoid the 11-9´s tragedy?
 

offline nacmat on 2002-05-17 18:16 [#00223749]
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here in spain I read in the news that he had information
enough to presume that something was about to happen,
related to planes kidnnaping...
what do you think?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 18:18 [#00223750]
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as much as I hate bush, I don't think they could have done
much. the details could have been patchy at best and the
american gov't must get threats etc all the time, you can't
just shut down all the airlines for these things


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-17 18:18 [#00223751]
Points: 16280 Status: Lurker



I think that the media isn't always 100 percent correct...
thus, what they say might not be the whole truth, but
something to get attention... but I really don't know...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 18:19 [#00223755]
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well since bush was in on the plot, he could have done
plenty to have stopped it; unlike Bin Laden, who probably
knew nothing about it until after he was fingered.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-17 18:19 [#00223756]
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It smells political to me, but we'll have to wait and see.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-17 18:19 [#00223757]
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right, I agree... it's easy to point the fingers after the
fact, and say "You had information to stop this", but before
the fact maybe the information really wasn't that different
from any other threats, or at least wasn't enough to tell
them when, where, how, etc, etc...


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-17 18:20 [#00223758]
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That may be the case but im not sure why this critisism is
being aimed at Bush only??? he is after all only "one" man?
"Busch could have stopped the terrorist attacs"
Atleast thats how its being portrayed in the news here.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-17 18:20 [#00223759]
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right, I agree... it's easy to point the fingers after the
fact, and say "You had information to stop this", but before
the fact maybe the information really wasn't that different
from any other threats, or at least wasn't enough to tell
them when, where, how, etc, etc...


 

offline supreme from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-05-17 18:21 [#00223760]
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bush


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-17 18:21 [#00223762]
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right, I agree... it's easy to point the fingers after the
fact, and say "You had information to stop this", but before
the fact maybe the information really wasn't that different
from any other threats, or at least wasn't enough to tell
them when, where, how, etc, etc...


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-17 18:22 [#00223763]
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WHat the hell are you doing???


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 18:35 [#00223765]
Points: 4700 Status: Lurker



fuck man, this board is annoying me, I typed out a long post
and it 404'd

anyway, people are blaming bush alone because he himself is
so disliked, and now the idiotic over-patriotism seems to be
dying a *bit*, people are starting to ask questions, not
least in the media

up to now, bush has had an easy ride, I think there's a
feeling that's been a bit dangerous


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 18:39 [#00223769]
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"so unliked"? only by foreigners -- havent you seen his
popularity rating? prior to this "new" development, his
popularity rating was VERY high...


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-17 18:40 [#00223771]
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True...

But its still anoying when media have these simplified
headlines etc..



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 18:42 [#00223772]
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a headline, by definition, is meant to be pretty simple


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 18:57 [#00223777]
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bush approval ratings: 72%

[source:Cook Political Report/Ipsos-Reid poll of registered
voters conducted late april, early may]

bush approval rating: 69%

[source: Bloomberg News poll of adults conducted late april,
early may]


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 18:59 [#00223778]
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marlowe, you quoted me wrong, I said "so disliked"!

But yes, I should have stated I mean't in the rest of the
world...I took it as common knowledge he was loved in
america...all on the back of 9/11?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 19:00 [#00223779]
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hah, come on mr cynical, you believe everything the US press
tells you?! =)


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 19:06 [#00223782]
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you know me better than that b3n! but i quoted two
sources didn't i? and they aren't the US press anyways --
and come on, with the Bush Family's INCREDIBLY suspicious
and dodgy past, how could ANYONE believe that bush gives a
rat's ass about the US citizenry? are they THAT fucking
blind/dumb/ignorant that they buy that? how could they vote
him as president? i'm STILL incredulous that they did --
and, of course, doubtful that they did...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 19:09 [#00223785]
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yeah, I think *I'm* cynical, but compared to you, i'm
nothing! Well, if his brother (jed?) loses his place in
florida its going to be a big blow to the republicans. Its
all down to money and influence, it stinks and i've thought
that since the day he won. I'm not a huge fan of gore (and
ESPECIALLY some of his wifes policies and views) but he
seemed to have a bit more integrity and realism


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-17 19:11 [#00223789]
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yeah sorry about that... my browser went haywire for a
minute...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-17 19:15 [#00223793]
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and I thought I was SPESHEL!!!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 19:16 [#00223795]
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i'm really not cynical at all -- at least, not in a
day-to-day reality framework -- i just think we are being
fucked over BIG TIME by politicians and their corporate
puppet masters -- from that simple hypothesis, it's easy to
see why i may appear somewhat cynical ;)


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-17 19:17 [#00223796]
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haha!! it was a bit confusing.
surely a man with 3648 points could not accidently post
three times???


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-17 19:48 [#00223811]
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It's ironic that you won't quote the USA press, but you'll
quote Bloomberg. If anyone could be in the political pocket,
it would be them. Your other source seems a lot more
neutral.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-17 19:52 [#00223814]
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thanx for your valuable comment, inverted whale, although i
must correct you: i didn't say i won't quote the USA press
-- it just happens that in that instance i didn't.


 


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