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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 02:33 [#00217122]
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I think the reason many didn't fall out of their chairs when they heard Gantz Graf is because how it sort of sounds like Confield b-sides. B-sides, in themselves, aren't bad, but did any of us expect honest b-sides from Autechre? Some new material, yes, but I think everyone anticipated a hint at the next direction for Autechre. And since Gantz Graf turned out to sound a lot like Confield scraps, we were a little disappointed. I'll have faith that the next Autechre release will be something to capture my fascination in Autechre again!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-13 02:34 [#00217123]
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I don't fucking know. It's not on Confield's level, that's for sure.
I'm hoping this is just a bridge between Confield and their next big step, because Gantz Graf is my LEAST favorite work by them.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 02:36 [#00217126]
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Right--it's just kinda sounds like stale Confield tunes, to me.
I agree, it doesn't have the same repeated enjoyment other Autechre does.
I loved it at first but now, I just think of it as twenty minutes better spent with Confield or LP5. :(
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-05-13 03:08 [#00217161]
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i still havent heard any of the full songs on the EP, because i insist on being patient and waiting for the CD to come out. imo, jumpin the gun and grabbin the mp3 right away kinda spoils the excitement of the anticipation of its release.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-13 03:12 [#00217165]
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Word of advice... don't get your hopes up! This ain't no Confield... blargh.
Feel free to slap me and/or kick me in the nuts if I spoiled it for you. Hell, maybe you'll love it... probably not though, it's sub par. :-/
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 03:14 [#00217171]
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Really--not much to be excited over. My first listen was good, and I liked it the second time. But now, it's worn out.
Other Autechre stuff doesn't get old. ;|
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-13 03:19 [#00217177]
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ae actually SAID these tracks were recorded during the confield sessions, so it's not exactly like they're marketing it as their new direction; it's more like something for the fans to tide them over till the dvd and next album come out
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-13 03:22 [#00217183]
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give it a little more time.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 03:24 [#00217187]
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I've given it time and the magic has worn off. It sounds like Autechre that I wouldn't particularly want to listen to all of the time. I think cap.iv is pretty cool, but the record just feels like nothing new.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-13 03:50 [#00217212]
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I love em..
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-13 04:15 [#00217231]
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you guys are crazy, get a grip.. its only 3 songs of course your gonna feel a little blergh... it soooo short, but its good, so chill mofo's Gantz Graf is actually really good ;P
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 04:17 [#00217236]
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It may be good, but it's not as relistenable as other Autechre.
It was disappointing--not bad! I never said the tracks were bad, just not fulfilling.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-13 04:28 [#00217260]
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i meant stop listening to it for a while (1-2 months), then listen to it again. and it's only been like a month since it has been on soulseek.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-13 04:28 [#00217261]
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Thank GOD it's not their new direction...
It's not horrible or anything, it's pretty good. But it really let me down. Not the end of the world, but I'm still disapointed. I've given it SHITLOADS of time, and it just isn't clicking.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-13 04:29 [#00217263]
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whens the official release?? i wont listen to it again until im holding the official copy
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Apt_Zet
from Afghanistan on 2002-05-13 05:09 [#00217350]
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Confield B-sides, that is probably what I was thinking when I first heard it. Though the past couple of days I have been really into CapIV.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-05-13 05:11 [#00217353]
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Cap iv on its own would be one of the most outstanding songs from the confieldish era... that and lentic...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-13 05:26 [#00217379]
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cap.iv reminds me a lot of bine, tho i think i prefer bine.. it's to the point. but i think cap.iv is even more hardcore, so they're both in the same "mindblowing" category
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2002-05-13 08:27 [#00217479]
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ya i haven't heard it yet..waiting for it to come out.... yes these tracks were delivered to warp at the same time as confield...so thats literally what the songs are..songs that weren't good enough for confield..b-sides is what they are
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 11:22 [#00217646]
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cap iv is prob the best tune ive heard this year, its fucking wicked, although i turn it off at about 7 mins wen it goes fucking hardcore.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-13 11:30 [#00217652]
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You people are insane. A month ago, when it appeared on soulseek, you were all pissing your pants and climaxing in series over the ep. Suddenly, you all feel it's second-rate confield stuff. I remember that Ophecks was especially happy about the ep... I mean, OK, if you don't like it any more, well, that's fair enough, but it really is nice. Three nice songs in Confield style, not a breakthrough in any direction but very listenable, enjoyable and fun. What the fuck, you let your expectations ruin you the pleasure of listening? And, not to mention that most of you people go on all the time that you want to hear every single track Sean & Rob ever put on their harddisk and now you just bitch about it not being the best fucking EP in the history of civillisation. Chill off, for gods sake.
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urb
from Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-05-13 11:35 [#00217657]
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guess this will happen when astrobotnia is released too :)
people should learn to take hype for hype and just enjoy things as they are.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-05-13 11:37 [#00217661]
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word, urb. I really like Gantz Graf for what it is: three tracks of skillfully made, fun to listen to electroinic music. I don't really care if it was made by autechre or any of their numerous clones worldwide. Reading too much into the music (especially as abstract as AE's) is never good for the listening itself.
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-13 12:37 [#00217767]
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well i still like it, i play dial and cap.iv alot
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-13 16:46 [#00217944]
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it lacks the deep atmosphere that confield has...it feels like raw material that they could have done a lot more with. but i like cap.iv though
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Glitch
from New Zealand on 2002-05-13 18:09 [#00218041]
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I love how you guys critisize things before they are even out, just because you got the mp3s doesnt make you god, or even a decent reviewer (no such thing by the way)
I have actually listened to the first two tracks, though only once or twice, I found one really good, and the other not so... but fuck it, Id laugh my arse off if Autechre (or anyone) made a fake release to fuck you monkeys up...
calm down, this aint over :)
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-13 18:20 [#00218062]
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2 Questions to the lot of U:
1. Is Ganz Graf anything like EP7??? 2. Do you like EP7????
The few clips I've heard reminds me of the EP7-sound and EP7 is my autechre fave so far.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2002-05-13 18:26 [#00218069]
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1.noooooooo 2.ep7 is my fav after confield
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-13 18:26 [#00218071]
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Yup, the initial excitement has worn off, and left a very AVERAGE EP. :-) I don't like it much anymore. It's not bad at all, but I expected something much better. Dial is actually starting to grow on me, but Cap iv still isn't clicking.
And Glitch, erm, having MP3s doesn't make me a God, but last time I checked, even pathetic NON-Gods can form opinions, no?
Hopefully Autechre has tricked has and has something much better up their sleeve.
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-05-13 19:35 [#00218158]
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whatever... i remember it was about this time last year when everyone was crying about how disappointed they were with confield..
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:11 [#00218187]
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hm. Cap IV is the only one that really clicks for me. I like Dial too though.
I'm still buying it when it comes out. oh and when I have money to burn this summer - right now I'm a broke, unemployed college kid.
I agree that it's quality, I'm just starting to realise that Autechre's moving in directions that aren't exactly a comfortable fit with my listening tastes (though I still enjoy them). to be honest, I like these so-called "Autechre Clones" (what the fuck is that supposed to mean, anyway?? I've yet to hear someone who I think truly sounds like Autechre or is trying to sound like Autechre), most notably Brothomstates. I think Claro is probably my favourite album right now. great spring/summer music.
anyway, have fun complaining, that's what "IDM" / avant-electronic [/ indie / emo / punk] kids do best :D
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-05-13 20:14 [#00218195]
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laugh away, but i am still skeptical about the gantz graf ep. why haven't warprecords.com mentioned when it will be released yet? we all know it's supposed to be out somewhere round the end of may, but it hasn't officially been confirmed, has it? i consider it a possibility we are being tricked by autechre (or anyone) indeed, and phobiazero is in on it with those clips he hosts on autechre.nu.
but i'm prolly insane. i love cap.iv a lot and dial a bit, but gantz graf.... i don't get the point of the song....
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:23 [#00218213]
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cap i.v. is incredible really loud it seems to have it's own internal rhythmn that you have to get used to and the end is really lush - like heasvy rain from inside a car
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-13 22:26 [#00218377]
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my only complaint with grantz graf is that it's too short. well, it's my complaint with any EPs. you start getting into them, but you want MORE!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-13 22:27 [#00218381]
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yeah, i was also wondering why warp didnt release any official information about this release... maybe because the dvd is supposed to be the 'real' release, and grantz graf is some kind of companion...
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cioxx
from Glendale, CA (United States) on 2002-05-13 22:32 [#00218390]
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autechre gets on my last nerve
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-05-13 22:39 [#00218400]
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Gantz Graf sounds cheap. I hoped the tracks I downloaded were FAKES, but sadly they were the real thing. And Im not saying that because the tracks are very "nooisy" no, because It sounds like they didnt put any thought in it and just recycled a few CONFIELD samples.....
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-13 23:16 [#00218426]
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that's so crazy, you turn it off before it's supreme orgasmic peak!
i love the ep. only complaint is that gantz graf is too short, it hints at things, like a tease, and then it's done. i like what's there, but could use much more.
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Gonzola
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-05-13 23:33 [#00218445]
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it hasn't clicked yet. i'm listening to it a lot tho, and i will buy it, cos i know how autechre's music can be...you can hate it first, then it grows, and after a while you love it. that's the way confield was for me anyway..
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-14 01:02 [#00218541]
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Gantz Graf is short, but very brilliant. The sound strecthing and the beat screwings is what I dig of electronic and I'm glad Autechre made this track. It's something I dig for.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-14 02:41 [#00218606]
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Well, not everyone can be Velvet Acid Christ...
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-05-14 02:49 [#00218607]
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i really couldn't absorb any of grantz graf. i thought it was a waste of time.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-05-14 02:51 [#00218608]
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I haven't heard it yet, but I do wonder why it took a whole year to release extra tracks from the Confield sessions, if that's what they are.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-14 02:57 [#00218610]
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Who knows, eh? But I think Warp are probably not talking about it until they have some solid material from Autechre to follow up Gantz Graf which won't do well. ;(
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2002-05-14 04:28 [#00218700]
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where did you people read that grantz graf was confield b-sides?
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LPB
from Regina (Canada) on 2002-05-14 05:54 [#00218743]
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Gantz Graf is an upcomming song from the Autechre's new EP.
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digital messiah
on 2002-05-14 13:15 [#00219055]
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nothing went wrong,its simply crap.
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polar bear
from United Kingdom on 2002-05-14 13:46 [#00219087]
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gantz graf is for a video track isn't it? maybee that's why it's short and maybee it needs to be listened to/watched in it's proper contex?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-16 04:53 [#00221847]
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cortex: good question. i know for sure i read that and it was directly from ae themselves. i'm thinking the warp Q&A (see autechre.nu), but if not then their most recent interview. they made a comment "these tracks were made at the same time as confield" -- they did NOT say "here are some lousy b-sides we didn't think were good enough for the last album" and i'm sure they don't feel that way either.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-16 05:07 [#00221863]
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Æ is sublime.
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