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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 02:20 [#00217115]
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Hello, I am currently beginning a project to create my own IDM/ambient music and am hoping to get some tips from those of you that already do. I just got my hands on some software called ReBirth, its basically like a mixing program with hundreds of ways to change beat/rhythm/tone of a bunch of presets, but it really doesn't give me that much freedom. Anyone have any experience with this program? Or, what software is useful, if any? Should I be using a synth with some good hardware, or software, or a combination of the two? I guess it probably depends on what type of music I want to create, and that would be mostly ambient. I appreciate any advice anyone has to give.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 02:25 [#00217116]
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Get Fruity Loops, Buzz (http://www.buzzmachines.com), Sawcutter, Hammerhead, Drumsynth, and any free audio software you can.
I use a synth, roland jx-305, in addition to the above software. I've done a good lot of ambient and some industrial-drum-'n'-bass sorta stuff. And some downright awful stuff, too. ;)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 02:34 [#00217124]
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cool, i figured I'd need a synth, are there any that are a good balance between price and capability?
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-05-13 02:40 [#00217131]
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My synth I got used for $350. It was probably stolen--plastic covers on all the keys. I guess now Roland Jx-305s are around $500. It has a big internal memory and is a sequencer and synth in one, takes memory cards, full midi capability. It's everything but a sampler!
That's where the PC comes in. :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 19:40 [#00218162]
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awesome, i think I'll try to get a stolen one too ;)
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-05-13 19:42 [#00218165]
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i just use fruity loops , it dose me well
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-05-13 19:47 [#00218167]
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i have special leads connected to pads on my brain the leads go into a special box which spews out the music!!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-13 19:50 [#00218168]
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damn, where would I get these, how you say, "special leads"? ;)
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 19:59 [#00218176]
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if you go the FM [hardware] route, pretty much any FM synth (especially the TX81Z, which is what I have) is very cheap and very capable. the problem after that is learning how to use FM, as it is fairly complex and can be difficult to learn - thus, the true price of potency.
on the other hand, if you choose to go the software route, get as much free stuff as you can, as Spookyluke said. there's some incredibly capable shareware and freeware out there, notably (to me) Buzz and Audiomulch. if you want something free that's extremely capable, try cSound. however, cSound has, again with power versus difficulty of use, a steep learning curve. if you are using a Mac, you can also try MAX/MSP and Supercollider, though I haven't any experience with them.
if you're going the cSound route, I'd also recommend you get the cSound book. in fact, I recommend you get it anyway, as it covers extensively sound design basics and then some. whatever sound design software/hardware you use, you'll have gained a much better understanding of how to make sound electronically.
hope this helped. :)
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-05-13 20:02 [#00218178]
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fruityloops is cheddar. except for live situations. try going out and record sounds and fück them the fâck up in cool edit or soundforge or whatever.. ahh i should slam shut me big mouth.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:05 [#00218180]
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Another TX81Z user! I love mine to bits, i've just enquired about getting another one!
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:15 [#00218198]
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:-D hurrah! get 'em while they're cheap! I love mine too, though it's often a love/hate relationship; I get so exhausted from programming the beast at times. incredible how analogue (with the right treatment) they can sound though! only complaint I really have is the lack of polyphony, but of course this can be overcome with a sampler.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:46 [#00218261]
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yeah well lack of polyphony is the reason i'm getting another
They do sound kinda analogue to me though...very BoC if you want
I don't like programming from the synth but I find the interface not that bad
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:48 [#00218265]
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there's an Atari ST program that makes the whole TX81Z ordeal a bit more bearable. I can't remember the name, but it worked remarkably well with an ST emulator on my PC.
methinks I'll go download it. I'll get back to you on that.
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license
from out of nowhere on 2002-05-13 20:49 [#00218267]
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yeah BoC certainly comes to mind.
so does Autechre, if you're clever ;)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-13 20:49 [#00218268]
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I use JSynth for it, its wicked
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illfates
from space (United States) on 2002-05-13 21:05 [#00218286]
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Serious and production level synth will all be produced in VST environments or their brethren. Software such as Cubase, Logic Audio, Protools, and Digital Performer will blow fruity loops and even buzz right out of the water any day.
VST4EVA!
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