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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-08 23:29 [#00211529]
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anyone knows how many albums of rdj and paradinas is beeing sold?
i was just wonderinig how popular this genre is
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Asche XL
on 2002-05-08 23:38 [#00211532]
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enough for him to buy a tank, submarine and a bank
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Morg DOBWCPT
from Davis (United States) on 2002-05-09 00:13 [#00211544]
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i think RDJ made a fair amount of his money licensing tracks.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-09 00:18 [#00211550]
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i'm more curious how popular idm really is
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-05-09 00:22 [#00211556]
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i guess i can see as rdj and u-ziq and squarepusher and autechre as being the pop stars of idm.
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:03 [#00211591]
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Aphex Twin is World Wide. Look at how many people are on this message board, a lot of people are into IDM. Ive heard RDJ does special releases to Japan. People in Japan love him and freak out to get his music and probably pay him a lot of money just to make music for them and release it there. He's not big in the media, but because he is so good word gets around and people make there friends listen to it and then they become fans too. I dont think you need to advertise your self when your a specialized kind of thing like Aphex people that want it will seek it out. All he has to do is be creative.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:05 [#00211596]
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i wonder if got to keep the money in the bank!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-05-09 01:18 [#00211610]
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IDM doesn't sell ridiculous amounts but you can make a lot of money from licensing, playing live and remixing. The main + point if you're talking about money, you don't need a stylist, choreographer, personal assistant, manager, PR person etc. and your shelf life isn't based on media trends.....
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:22 [#00211612]
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playing live as in DJ'ING! argh! why don't more idm artists actually play live?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-05-09 01:25 [#00211616]
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I know the Djing thing sucks when they are capable of so much more, it's laziness really, it's a hassle to break down your studio, play, then build it back up.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:28 [#00211620]
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i know it's a hassle, but it's a hassle to tour in any capacity. i mean look at sonic youth, they lost 20 years' worth of meticulously customized instruments and gear while on the road. i just think it'd be cool if the artists we support would put more effort into their performances; i think the risk would pay off (higher attendance, better sales, increased word of mouth). anyway, how're you doing today jivver?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-05-09 01:34 [#00211625]
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I'm doing good! It's been a really good day.
I was agreeing with you, I saw Kraftwerk live at 'Tribal Gathering' in the UK and it's......you can't explain it really....If/when 8) I play live it's going to be real. It's really a cop out Djing.
I had some news today about Dj shadow Titsworth, I'll mail you tomorrow.....
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:42 [#00211628]
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glad to hear you're doing well! i am too, asides from the fact that i am completely ignoring my essays for american capitalism due friday. one essay is "why is capitalism an unfair system?" and the other is "how would you reform or replace capitalism?" (ie: new way of life), very very open ended assignments based on knowledge/perspectives learned throughout the semester. cool assignment, but a bit daunting at the same time. i'm gonna rip off nader for a lot of it cos ralph's the man.
i almost saw fucking kraftwerk. tibetan freedom concert 1998 in dc. they were supposed to play but if you recall that whole lightning thing happened with the girl. so things got mixed up. the next day i asked someone working there if kraftwerk would play and they said no cos they wanted 2 hours to set up and 3 hours to take down, and they only had 2 stages for the whole 50 bands that weekend. sucks. that would've been their first performance in years. anyway, kraftwerk are dope as hell. i heard one of their ambient songs (kometenmelodie pts 1&2) monday and it surprised me big time.
glad you're not just going to be playing records. kick start the revolution of live playing!
thanks for the dj shadow news, whatever it is. i look forward to hearing about it. feel free to throw in anything else in your update =) i emailed cex back and forth today and he let me know a few things about his upcoming projects and a new kid 606 album.
kid 606 remix of depeche mode "dream on" -> pure bliss =)
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-05-09 01:52 [#00211635]
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I e-mailed cex one time when I was really drunk...I'd love to do something but I didn't keep in touch....tell him I'm still interested, I feel all shy.
Those assignments sound quite involved and you'll be argueing with yourself! I know I've said it before but your radio show is cool. People need to hear this type of mix.
Keep it up titsworth 8)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 01:58 [#00211640]
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the essays shouldn't be that hard once i start working on them. that's the stuff i'm always thinking about anyway. i'm pretty sure of myself when it comes to political issues and capitalism in general. but it'll be interesting to just sit down for a few hours and write down what i think would be a better system. a lot of people complain about things and don't actually come up with any better suggestions (including myself, admittedly). hopefully this'll go well.
thanks again, i'm glad you like my selections. i always told people on here to listen but it met with so much resistance that i'm just not going to fuck with it next semester. my girlfriend says she'll remind them but if she forgets it's no big deal to me. i could do without some morons criticizing my selection of a vengaboys song or people assuming i'm sitting at my computer playing mp3's or something. fortunately though the people who listened (locally and online) mostly enjoyed it.
i'll email him and let him know (i'm going to pass on your email address that i know unless you tell me otherwise). should be an interesting situation. hehe
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 02:05 [#00211642]
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-05-09 02:08 [#00211644]
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The people on the Ninjatune forum would love to hear your show, maybe try some advertising there.....lots of my friends tune in.
it's okay to say the same e-mail, I've blurted it out to him anyway!
I'd better go I'm getting drunk and my girlfriend is talking about her work....Yawn...only kidding.....she made me write that....goodnight.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 02:09 [#00211645]
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incidentally have you heard his new album, tall dark & handcuffed? it's actually quite impressive. his production is on some next shit and his lyrics and flow fit perfectly with the music. some people have it on soulseek.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 02:11 [#00211646]
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lots of your friends tune into what? my little show? anyway thanks for the suggestion, i'll try that. ninjatune's a great label, i should play more of their artists. take care.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-09 02:16 [#00211648]
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"it'd be cool if the artists we support would put more effort into their performances; i think the risk would pay off (higher attendance, better sales, increased word of mouth). "
It would be cool if more of these artists toured and dj'ed live, but being in a band, I have always cared more about creating truly good music than creating standard, generalized music that the masses can get into (or making money), and I hope RDJ and artists like him have the same outlook. The last thing I would want to happen to RDJ and IDM in general is to become a fashion like so many genres before it.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-05-09 07:01 [#00211811]
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ehhehe.......WHAT me forget?? NEVA
i will advertize advertize....cos it's great radio and hopefully people will be MORE supportive of each other! it's so easy to listen, and so worth two hours of your time a week. =0)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-09 07:23 [#00211816]
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different value systems. some people 'get it' some don't. i can no longer afford to care if the people here don't; checking up on who listened (which is a very small group of people, as in 1, 2, 3) has become just a big waste of time. i'll try to post on ninjatune tho; it'll be funny if they're more responsive, considering i've never posted there and no one knows me and HERE i've posted tons (you have to count v4 posts) and people do know me.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-05-09 07:29 [#00211818]
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i think this fall maybe SOME peeps will be more responsive......i'll never stop encouraging.....because it's such a lil thing, so easy to do.
i'll join ya on ninjatune....ehehhe....as i said advertise advertise =0)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-09 11:03 [#00212017]
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i guess no one really knows ...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-05-09 11:10 [#00212024]
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And through his record label...
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