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does idm make you clever?
 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-06 16:51 [#00207904]
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i think so...


 

offline Resident Evil from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-05-06 16:53 [#00207906]
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Well, you are listening to great music, so it must make you
more intelligent!


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-06 17:00 [#00207908]
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seems like a reversed cause/effect relation... isn't it
rather "you are more intelligent, so it must make you listen
to great music"?

and even so... chacun ses goûts! (each one has its own
tastes) :)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 17:09 [#00207909]
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bollocks


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 17:13 [#00207910]
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I found after 10 days of intensive listening my brain grew
30%


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-06 17:14 [#00207912]
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skcollob


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-06 17:15 [#00207913]
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i don't think you get smarter by listening to so-called
"idm", but you're clearly open-minded musicwise at least.
and that's always a good thing.

i feel sorry for all those tossers that are listening to
eurodance or all of that f*ckin' top40 shite. it ain't da
shiznatz, if yis ge' me drift.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-06 17:16 [#00207915]
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skcollob x 2


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-06 17:17 [#00207916]
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open-minded?

yeah... but it can depend — if you only listen to idm,
denigrating other genres, you're not really open-minded...


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-06 17:17 [#00207917]
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it widens your horizons...you won't see things in the same
way as before


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-06 17:19 [#00207921]
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$K©°l|öß x pi


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-06 17:19 [#00207922]
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thinghs related to music?


 

offline joakim from Norway on 2002-05-06 17:21 [#00207924]
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you probably had to be quite open-minded in the beginning to
get into the idm stuff, i reckon. but it works the other way
around as well, of course.


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:21 [#00207925]
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it0s just that some peoples hear more than other, some
peoples are able to get more details and character of
music, other peoples can't understand, or won't understand
that other good music exist, just cliché peoples IMO


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-06 17:22 [#00207926]
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since music influencates your mood... if you're listening to
idm or if you have idm tracks in your head, you're seeing
things differently — not only things related to music...


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:23 [#00207929]
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uzim: it's a way of life...


 

offline uzim on 2002-05-06 17:23 [#00207930]
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yeah... you're right


 

offline Ceri JC from I'm too old for this shit (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 17:28 [#00207939]
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A total state of being...
I *am* IDM.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-05-06 17:29 [#00207940]
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situation with me is that i really like this music
ther's not much more to it


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:29 [#00207941]
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"if you're listening to
idm or if you have idm tracks in your head, you're seeing
things differently"

very good point, i like this sentence...
the whole way of thinking changes...


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:30 [#00207943]
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i think we're all on the same way.....


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 17:30 [#00207944]
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nah, it doesn't make you smarter... that's an arrogant thing
to say I think...


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2002-05-06 17:32 [#00207945]
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Im still a dumass


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 17:33 [#00207946]
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i'm with you funkmaster, it doesn't "make" you
intelligenter. but i think ppl's who like "idm", have
something special IMO


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2002-05-06 17:36 [#00207950]
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at least you don't usually go with the mainstream; i think
that's the special thing....


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:00 [#00207972]
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I feel superior because I listen to IDM. Am I a cocky twat?
Yes. But you can't but feel a notch above the rest of the
monkeys when CockVer10 is blasting out the car and turning
heads, while everyone else has some lame mainstream bassy p
hop playing.

I find IDM fans are a hell of a lot smarter and more
interesting, anyway.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:03 [#00207973]
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there's a major difference between good musical taste and
intelligence. i of course have an abundance of both =D


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-06 18:03 [#00207976]
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The only people geting smarter is the ones MAKING the
IDM....


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:08 [#00207982]
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i think listening to certain types of music does make you
more intelligent if you really follow and grasp what's going
on. comprehending music is a valuable skill. obviously in
idm, jazz, classical, etc. there's more to grasp than in
punk or pop, but there's meaning to every note of every
composition.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2002-05-06 18:10 [#00207988]
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No way! ...could make you more arrrrrogant tho...


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-06 18:10 [#00207989]
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Yeah but theres a difference betwen Personality and
Inteligence.
Inteligence takes so many forms , music is only one....


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-05-06 18:11 [#00207991]
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That made no sense? ^


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:12 [#00207993]
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music doesn't make you more intelligent... music is only as
good as what you bring to it, thus, you have to already be
of a certain intelligence or personallity type or whatever,
to like IDM, Jazz, classical, or whatever... that's just my
opinion...


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2002-05-06 18:17 [#00208001]
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Before IDM my life was upside down. I'd go out with friends,
yes, I had friends back then. There was time to kill and I
would waste hours being social and taking care of them. They
would ask me out and we'd meet some girls from school and go
watch a movie.

NOW, when I first started to listen to IDM, I noticed how I
didn't have to answer their calls anymore. I felt no need to
call back either! I would sit home alone, hypnotized by the
distorted beats, masturbating. My full acne camo returned
within days of no care! I strongly feel that without IDM my
life would be the same hell it always was. IDM is solely
responsible for these fantastic results. Thank you, Sean,
Rob and Richard.

-P

PS. Arovane. Winamp. Now.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:18 [#00208006]
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Not that the music makes you smarter, but smarter people
tend to gravitate to... erm... smarter music. I've never
talked to an Autechre fan that was a stupid Abercrombie and
Fitch frat boy moron.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-05-06 18:19 [#00208007]
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I dont think so

I can just think about some nu metal messageboard where
someone goes, "Nu metal will make you cleverer". and clearly
this is not the case.

I just like the music, i dont want to put it up on some
pedestal it cant live up to.


 

offline PhystPhukt from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:22 [#00208012]
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I think that it kinda does, but how exactly are you
measuring the inntelligence here? A quotent? Clverness?
Imagination? Creativity? I think that it doesnt really
affect intelligence, or measure it for that matter, but I
think that theres a difference between those who listen to
Trashy club techno, and then those who listen to AFX and
Autechre and whatnot. But only when it comes to creativity
and imagination. You know, we just dont pick techno or IDM
so we can f'n DANCE to it or take drugs and wig out on it.

--takes a bow--

I like fried chicken. --Listening to "The Garden Of Lin
Miri--


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-06 18:26 [#00208023]
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yes, there is a difference, but I don't think it's
necessarily an intelligence difference but more of a
personality difference... those who like IDM maybe just take
music more seriously, and spend more time listening... it
doesn't mean we're smarter, but that we just enjoy listening
to music more, and take it more seriously...


 

offline PhystPhukt from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2002-05-06 18:27 [#00208026]
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Funkmaster --nod nod--


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-05-06 19:02 [#00208113]
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my friend had t-shirt about 7 years ago, which said, to
humourous effect

I THINK THEREFORE I AMBIENT


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-06 19:04 [#00208119]
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nice fucking shirt!

once i get a new job, i'm going to start crafting my own
shirts /w crazy sayings like that...


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-06 19:13 [#00208147]
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"Not that the music makes you smarter, but smarter people
tend to gravitate to... erm... smarter music."

yeah, I've found that ophecks, you do get the odd person
like Kara though


 

offline nhiiq from the hanging valleys on 2002-05-06 19:37 [#00208187]
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ok, this is from an old post, too lazy to retype, everything
again...

>>>

i think what the funkmaster said (i think it was him) is
that with this kind of music there is a lot more detail to
pick out... it may make you feel more intelligent but it's
more that you can notice things better, the "little things"
seem more vibrant (sp) to whatever sense receives the type
of stimulation.

i think autechre and BoC effected me the most... when i
first listened to these artists i was bored or what not...
but as i forced myself to listen i began to notice a lot
more in the music. such as sounds intereacting... and the
formation of mental imagery.

the people that listen to mainstream music don't get the joy
of the artists place detail within the music... drums, bass,
guitar, and vocals. the element thats only up for
interpretation in "pop" music is the vocal... and drums for

their feet to interpret too. pop music is intended to just
be "popped" in and almost be comes the background, or a
"mood setter".

electronic on the other hand is "listening music".

hope that made some sense, i'm damn tired.

<<<



 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2002-05-06 20:09 [#00208263]
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Yeah I think that ^ (nhiiq) is pretty true. As a person who
used to mainly listen to underground melodic punk (not
poppunk) I feel that I tried to do the same thing, that is,
listen to the deeper points of music (sound interactions,
mental imagery) and I quickly gravitated towards IDM because
there truly is so much more to listen for, every song
reminds me of some past experience I have lived and the
feelings associated with that experience. The aspect I find
the most ironic is that those who only listen to pop have no
idea what they are missing... On intelligence, well I don't
feel any smarter, mostly just that my senses are being
stimulated in a way that regular music doesnt come near, and
maybe that could account for the feeling of becoming more
intelligent. Hope this is useful ;)


 

offline digital messiah on 2002-05-06 21:49 [#00208440]
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xaxaxa
what a bunch of bullshit....

to the guys who think they are smarter cuz theyre listening
to idm,....i feel sorry for u...


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 22:07 [#00208489]
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what I need to ask is..
does being clever make you IDM?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-06 22:39 [#00208533]
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Yeah I really doubt it makes you any smarter.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-06 22:41 [#00208539]
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you hit it on the head REFLEX:)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-05-06 22:43 [#00208542]
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It doesn't make you smarter, but I can't help but notice
that people that listen to ''mainstream'' music are dumber.
So... there must be SOME correlation.


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2002-05-06 22:58 [#00208563]
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hold on, we just listen to electronic music, or the most of
them is electronic generated music. if i ask a mainstream
trancehead what for sound he likes to listen to it, he maybe
answers "electronic" or "techno" or something, "sorry,
you're a lier"


 


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