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i think ae fans are very small-minded....although they think they are very intelligent and open-minded u guys are acting like a bunch of retards! rob & sean could easily record themselves taking a shit in the toilet and then process that sound in their studio a little bit just so it can sound like an audio track,and u outstanding-brilliant-superior-incomparable-unbeatable-mast guys would fill these pages with erpiece-posts immediately.. very silly... |
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#@%^#&#$^& outstanding-brilliant-superior-incomparable-unbeatable-mast ....and u guys would fill these pages with erpiece-posts immediately.. very silly... |
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at least i'm not pointing the finger, you twat |
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hmmmmm very fukin interesting outstanding-brilliant-superior-incomparable-unbeatable-mast and u guys would fill these pages with erpiece-posts immediately.. |
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I've been posting deliberately overly arrogant comments for fun recently. I don't feel a need to defend autechre. They're wicked. |
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fukin mediocre form #$^ nevermind...i didnt wrote anything, its just a mirage.... |
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" taking a shit " i just read that and i say "go home" you fucking slut" |
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Can you not tell that an autechre track like track 4 off chichlisuite would take quite a bit more thought and effort than, say analogue bubblebath. Even if it's largely created by some insane software, someone had to create that software. |
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I did not understand this, it seems to be a verbal attack or something to complement your original one, other than that it makes little sense: fukin mediocre form #$^ nevermind...i didnt wrote anything, its just a mirage.... |
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Autechre ruult, somebody who don't understand should leave it, it's my sound like. who cares what the other one care ? i like it. just go back to ya po(o)p lovers.. shit on you. |
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or that must be quite a special 'crap' for it to turn out like track 4 off cichli suite, in which case it is equally worthy of such praise! |
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I think people who have names like "Digital-Messiah" should be massacred with harpoons. |
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^ now now, we're all entitled to our own opinions, its just that some are wrong. :) |
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is it me or is this thread mostly pointless and makes very little sense? oh well... |
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it's definitly not ae philosophy to piss people off with stupid and insulting shit. |
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hey i guess cause the pretentious "digital messiah" doesn't like autechre. that means we're a bunch of close minded, retards... i do have to admit ppl on here do seem to overly praise something the second they hear it... but i don't think that makes them retards. obviously this post is here to just piss ppl off so i don't know why i'm responding... please enlighten us with more of your brilliant words. |
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"please enlighten us with more of your brilliant words. " lol |
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and who said there was anything wrong with listening to someone taking a shit in a toilet? |
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i think some of their musikc is excellent but some of it sounds like the electronic version of the serialisim of varese and all those folk - really unlistenable with meaning and pleasure for the authors only - or maybe i'm missing the point? |
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i don't have to defend me loving autechre, you arrogant snot. they're wicked. end of story. |
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"dital messiah," are you saying that one of autechre's releases that somebody here has praised was actually of the quality level of studio processed shit? and if not, why do you assume this? if you fail to explain yourself beyond childish insults and sweeping statements then i assume your finger was pointed at yourself unconsciously. |
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i dont hasve to explain,i listen to electronic music since 95 and i have a very trained ear for these things,so i can feel a lot of things... rob & sean would surely explain it to u,if u were a friend of theirs...i firmly believe that they would admit u they made gantz graf in a couple of hours,just mixing up hundreds of random stuff on it....and that there IS NO concept behind it,just a plain digitally processed random music,but u all fail to realise this... they make random musci at the moment,just cuz they realised thay have a fast expanding base of fans,and that there is a lot of newbies who will be astounded just to hear something diferent and "innovative"(even though its completely random) thats a tendency i could see in confield also,but in small hints,like tracks 3,9 - completely random music,but overall confield is a good album i hope they will get to their senses soon and start to appreciate music as they once did,before they became stars... |
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Random is a useful word to describe things which appear to have varying outcomes, but all outcomes are ultimately dependent upon factors, nothing is truly random. It's also not "completely random" music. There's quite a bit of linear symmetry. Autechre are scientists more than musicians, interesting areas in mathmatics are randomness, chaos, fractals. They also experiment in the realm of psychology or something if you ask me, trippy psychadelic patterns, hypnotizing. They're music is such a tremendous expression. |
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"scientists more than musicians" <-- are you saying that music isn't science? science is not the same as chemistry, or physics &tc -- one can be a political scientist, for instance - that does not mean that they create politicians in a test-tube. |
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they're obviously not just "scientists" (as I called them), since they make music too, I didn't mean to seperate science and music, rather combine them, my fault maybe for a tricky sentence. It just seems they have a scientific approach to creating/understanding music. Pure science too which is knowledge just for the sake of knowing, not for putting to some use (for economic gain) |
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its just your opinion man..... some people listen to AFX or whatever you think is the "coolest" and think its stupid/boring/pointless or talentless.... easily. I dont think they are crazy mad scientists or geniueses or anything like that. Just make really nice music that I really enjoy. |
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I've thought about subjectivity, and I've come to the conclusion (at least for now) that since we are all related as the same species, we must have evolved similar ways of thinking, and there must be some universal (among humans) opinions that are more innate (less from culture/nurture)... there must be something about our ears and parietal lobes that makes organized sound entertaining to listen to, of course they didn't evolve for the purpose of entertainment, but rather as another crazy thing the genes selected since it aided survival. |
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I think the same for the brain ofcourse... we just previece it differently, like you know when you show someone a song you REALLY like, and there are hidden little patterns, or sounds or sound structures you think make the song cooler or fir perfectly, but they dont recognize them or realize they are there or care enough? thats how it is. |
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Who's in for my project of taking a small group of humans (and ourselves) to an island somewhere and trying to direct evolution to give us cool biological things like sonar.. and blubber? It'd be hard but electric shocking power is a possibility, the eels did it, crazy eels. |
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"they're obviously not just "scientists" since they make music too"...."i didnt mean to seperate science and music" dude, you contradicted yourself there again. the sentences aren't tricky. |
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troll, lol |
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I think that's the differing nurture (one person who spends relatively too much damn time tediously pointlessly tweaking sound would develope a more accute awareness for such subtle things, while other ... normal ... people do, like normal things in life, and don't pay too much relative attention to some pointless piece of sound...) |
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and reflex, you are such a naughty boy, ive gotten messages from people on this board telling me about you, and all the things youve done on this board, your guns, your website attacking phobiazero and joyrex, what a bastard you are |
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hey i read an autechre interview from the lp5 or ep7 era, i don't remember, in which ae say explicitly their music isn't random. there are random elements to it, but that's it. however i agree ae are somwhat idealized here. i happen to like gantz graf, i like its chaos and the disturbing images it invokes. i don't care how they created the songs, mostly when i read about the songwriting process i'm disappointed cause it takes away some of the magic. and i'm completely in favour of artists recording their own shitting sounds for a song. didn't aphex twin attempt to record his friend vomiting once? |
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that's a bit patronising isn't it? since you have set yourself up on that pedestal of yours, how could you relate and therefore have knowledge of, these "normal" people? |
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I only got into Autechre recently with "Incunabula". I also have ep7, basscad ep and anvil vapre and I can safely say they are absolutely bloody marvellous. I agree with korben that if someone can make such wonderful music from the sound of someone taking a shit then you have to praise them! Don't quite understand your logic digital messiah. |
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Maybe if I wasn't so retarded I'd make more sense. I put all the blame of the failure to communicate properly upon myself. I will punish myself by eating 1 earthworm, 1 screw, and 1 handful of those flies that accumulate inside jack-o-lanterns. |
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I wasn't exactly trying to elevate myself on a metaphorical pedestal, but rather stepping down to a lower platform, since caring about music to such a degree is ultimately an anal outlet for frustration. |
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ha |
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why is caring about music connected with frustration? |
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it shouldnt be. |
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yes, i agree |
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d'you hear me reflex, you evil bastard |
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it's like caring about the MacOS. Every Mac fan is frustrated with Microsoft and the rest of the PC world constantly copying Apple's ideas and even worse when they call that innovation. |
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hexagonaldope, did you get that copy of your LP i sent to you to get signed? |
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yes that would be frustration for sure. i don't really caring about music is the same tho, phAt, old pal |
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PCs are better than mac? dont make me laugh - all IDM musicians use apple macs, harly any use PC's |
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reproducing is the reason we are, and is our innate biological goal. Everything else is peripheral. I suppose you have your own reasons for caring about music. Maybe I'm not even very correct in frustration being mine. Why does your sentence have 8 words? |
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Phatbert 000::. your right..... but I dont really think about it too much, especially with the computer comments.... but it is true, and I myself am a long time mac user and pc user, but always leaned to the macs... |
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i dont take kindly to you sending me threatening emails reflex, please stop |
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