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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2002-05-03 05:52 [#00204162]
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maybe i'm a freq...but i listen to this stuff almost all the time...when i'm not listening to my other favorite music, classical/metal/classic rock type stuff.
Maybe i've become hardcore and desensitized...but when i let my friends who are usually mainstream music listeners hear any IDM artist...all i hear is u listen to some fuct up stuff man...its gay...etc.
I know i like it and thats all that matters, but i find this stuff better than any music out on the market honestly...it doesnt' push any big contraversal issues...etc, its what music should be all about...
i dunno i'll shut up now
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-03 05:54 [#00204165]
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I love this music too man... it's just so interesting, and the possibilites for the music are endless... it's an aquired taste I guess, but I love it... God only knows my sister has already lost hope in me... I bought Windowlicker today, and when I showed her the cover she just shook her head and laughed... :)
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MO2
from Minneapolis, MN (United States) on 2002-05-03 06:24 [#00204186]
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that's how people feel about the music they love.....you just happen to love a good kind...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2002-05-03 06:42 [#00204191]
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IDM does get boring after I while. I have been listening to it consistently for about 4-5 years now, and am starting to find it boring.
There still a couple really good new artists tho.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-05-03 14:37 [#00204515]
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Yeah, you're all desensitized hardcore gays if you listen to this music ;)
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spasmsixtynine
from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-03 14:46 [#00204523]
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yeah i played some u-ziq to a mate who was pissing me off playing ambient chill out compilation albums and he just freaked out and turned it off. i always wonder what other people hear now when i hear something fantastic!
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Narkotic
from United States on 2002-05-03 14:59 [#00204535]
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i've been into the scene now for several years, and i find myself either listening to old stuff all the time... it gets tiresome once in a while but sometimes i'm just in the mood for it.
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Narkotic
from United States on 2002-05-03 14:59 [#00204539]
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i often ponder that spasmsixtynine
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uzim
on 2002-05-03 15:34 [#00204581]
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i made a friend of mine listen to autechre once (777), and he burst out laughing...
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spasmsixtynine
from leicester (United Kingdom) on 2002-05-03 16:00 [#00204604]
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i still enjoy hearing stuff that freaks me out the first time i hear it. autechre did this recently with one of the tracks on peel sessions 2. was in bed trying to sleep and this amazing melody was beating at my skull for like 10minutes. i freaked. now i love it
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-03 17:07 [#00204757]
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what rephlex claims' you won't want to hear anything else after this...'it's true...now i find very difficult to listen to some records i was very closed to before...i'm worried for that...
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-03 17:11 [#00204763]
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i've been "into" this electronica/idm thing for a couple of years now, and i totally love it. for the mainstream listener something like ventolin or maybe autechre's dael (opening track on tri rep.) might seem extremely harsh and brutal, but we (that are familiar with it, and sure as hell luuuv it) might think it's "plain" or rather "easy listening" compared to other stuff.
it's all relative you know.
i once read in interview with radiohead, were a dorky reporter asked them why they started to make such "difficult" and "abrassive" music. that was when thom replied that to them it wasn't "difficult" at all. at least not compared to what they were listening to at the time they made it. "it's not rocket science".
when i first heard ventolin back in the day, and some of the harsher aphex tracks around, i could never find myself loving that kind of music. now i can't live without it.
it's quite fascinating really...how one can get "familiar" with music, and sort of "learn" to love and appreciate it.
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-03 17:13 [#00204768]
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totally agree. some of the stuff out there in the electronica/idm genre really changes the way you feel/view/listen to things. albums that i really loved before i got into this thing now seem quite dull and "hard" to listen to.
they can still knock out some precious, nostalgic moments though...:)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-03 17:14 [#00204769]
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yeah I agree... but then there is also a point where you become TOO familiar with a type of music, and you lose interest... that sucks...
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2002-05-03 17:14 [#00204770]
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it's true..now I know that the best way to listen to music is discover it step by step....I wouldn't like something very easy to listen to..what i like is to enter to a certain mood even if it takes a lot of time...
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-05-03 17:15 [#00204771]
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i remember when i was a kid and metallica was the shit you know back in the day stuph befoer the black album that stuph seems repetetive now
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 17:16 [#00204773]
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i guess i don't listen to any specific genre predominantly... over say a period of two weeks. i just listen to good, emotionally powerful (for me) music, which happens to come from many many genres.
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numbplant
from st- jérôme québec (Canada) on 2002-05-03 17:37 [#00204808]
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its been about 2 years my friend made me listen to afx windowlicker and since i cant stop discovering new stuff and i realize that i dont really discover fast
im still in the "basics" of idm i dont see myself getting tired of electronic music its just so vast
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smeagle
from Portland (United States) on 2002-05-03 18:33 [#00204866]
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what pulls me in is the almost 'anything goes' attitude...it would seem as if there are less barriers in the genre, but who knows.....
Basically, if I can figure out how any track goes of any genre within one listen, the odds of me liking it are pretty much nil.....
unless it's so fucking beautiful/perfect that it makes you happy, like BOC.....
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jimisteel
from SLC (United States) on 2002-05-03 20:17 [#00204905]
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Most people, the people that listen to pop and alternative rock, don't like music without lyrics.
For me the more out there the better. I love when squarepusher goes nuts and makes a song 200+ Bpm. Like track 2 on go Plastic weeoohhh YEah!
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-03 20:33 [#00204909]
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there's really no barriers with any genre now. non-electric genres are incorporating electronics into theretunes and vice versa, and there's just so much that can be done in every arena and so many new arenas to be visited. i'm really excited about music in general right now, and electronica/idm is right in the center.
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Apt_Zet
from Afghanistan on 2002-05-03 21:17 [#00204987]
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It blew the doors open for me in music and that something I thought was pretty much shut.
I love the fact people think your nuts to. I think this stuff would scare my mom more than swedish black metal.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2002-05-03 22:27 [#00205060]
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All my friends think afx is too trippy. They like the ambient stuff, but I always see their disapproving faces when I play drukqs or RDJ album.
It's true what you guys say about getting used to IDM/electronic stuff. That's because when a hard-to-listen-to track grows on you, you raise your "tolerance level". After a while, when you are used to the more hardcore IDM stuff, the stuff of which you thought it was hard to listen to before becomes normal.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-05-03 22:34 [#00205062]
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Ive been listening to it for a long long time and listening to all these different artists does get boring, I like a few "IDM" artists, and thats it, before I enjoyed so many, now I really only like Uziq, AFX, Squarepusher, and Bogdan.
Maybe some shit here and there, but I listen to a lot of different kinds of techno so... and some metal/rock too.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-05-04 14:49 [#00205436]
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I have been listening to electronic music since my preteens...back then it was ...Cabaret Voltaire,Fad Gadget, Depeche Mode..then I got into early Industrial,then Electronic Industrial, Techno and then via Aphex..to IDM..it's always the same shocked response I am so used to it that if my neighbours and workmates etc get into what I am listening to or making...I get worried :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-04 15:07 [#00205441]
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one thing about IDM, or electronic music is that there are more options... the doors are wide open for what you can do... rock music is usually restricted to guitars, bass, and drums... however, bands like Radiohead and U2, who are, and have, mixed electronics into their rock music are making some fascinating music, are are showing that rock music doesn't have to be totally restricted... but still, in order for it to be rock, you need guitars... electronic music can go anywhere...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-05-04 15:08 [#00205442]
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i usually get looks of distgust, and even get ppl calling RDJ abulm "carnival music." I really love IDM, and think that it's the shiznat...there were times where i would play RDJ abulm in my old journalism class back in HS (on the teacher's boombox), and the class actually liked it! they were all over me at lunch asking me "what was that weird music?" I think it's more open mindness, than anything else...i've met musicians when i was on jazz, and classical circuits who didn't dig IDM, knew who RDJ was, and gave mad respect to electronic...
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joakim
from Norway on 2002-05-04 15:14 [#00205445]
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it's all about openmindedness, definitely. one would think that a person into jazz would easier slip into electronica music than a diehard rockfan.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-05 04:24 [#00205971]
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i don't know that radiohead and u2 were the pioneers of incorporating electronic sound into rock music.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 04:27 [#00205973]
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well, I didn't really mean to say that... just that they are doing it, and they have showed ME that rock music doesn't have to be totally restricted...
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-05-05 04:30 [#00205974]
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k, i see :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-05 16:13 [#00206442]
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has anyone reasonable exponation why this type of music is called idm?
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hexagonaldope
on 2002-05-05 16:18 [#00206446]
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intelligent dance music
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-05 16:45 [#00206476]
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ok but why is it called intelligent?
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:15 [#00206552]
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desensitized hardcore gays? sorry im just cutting and pasting previous replies
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:16 [#00206553]
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who called it intelligt IDM IS A FUCKING LAMOID TERM SO THAT RECORD STORES CAN EASILY GROUP OUR MUSIC WHICH THEY DIDNT GET (UNDERSTAND) IN THE FIRST PLACE! caps fucking lock baby!
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2002-05-05 18:18 [#00206555]
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intelligent! you mistyping bastard hands
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-05-05 18:52 [#00206594]
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and i thought its hard to explain
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 19:04 [#00206612]
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yes that's probably it... record reviewers, and record company people probably couldn't get the music so they called it "intelligent", and well when most people think of electronic music they probably think dance music, so they then tacked that on after the intelligent...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-05-05 19:05 [#00206613]
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but I would like to know how old the term is? Maybe it refers to bands like Orbital, and Aphex Twin, and Autechre when they first started out, when their music was like dance music... Orbital still is like dance music though...
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