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Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 00:25 [#00012325]



Hello

I want to make fucking cool music. I got a realy good
imagination but don't know how to get any of it down on
computer.

Somebody tell me where to start. Just any random words of
wisdom from Reflex or ID Lab or anyone else ingteresting.
Please. Thankyou :-) , goodnight.


 

m on 2001-07-05 00:47 [#00012328]



Well, I'm not interesting, but I suggest modplug tracker,
it's free.


 

Chris Ochre from Newcastle, UK. (www.mp3.com/ochre) on 2001-07-05 00:50 [#00012330]



Yeah, just get some free programs from Shareware Music
Machine (or download warez, but hey...) and just experiment.
Buzz and Audiomulch are real inspirational programs and
well-recommended. I think the URL is www.hitsquad.com/smm/ -
give it a try.

Chris.


 

Siamese Twin from The Dark Side on 2001-07-05 00:52 [#00012331]



OK...

Firstly, you need a decent multitrack editor. I suggest you
buy a pirate...AHEM... I mean, official copy of Cakewalk Pro
Audio.

And you should buy a drum sequencer... such as Fruityloops.

Of course, this is just for starters. There's a lot more you
will need.


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 09:31 [#00012387]



Don't get too many programmes / tools straight away.

Get a few and learn how to use them


 

H3XAN3 [C6H14] from Melb. on 2001-07-05 09:38 [#00012390]



teeth's right - i suggest you start yourself off with some
simple programming (ala. fruityloops) and then move on to
tracking software later, to create those more complex
structures


 

James from scotland on 2001-07-05 12:38 [#00012451]



I suggest you shove your computer up your ass and get some
machines, drum machines, sound modules, sampler/sequencers.
try an akai mpc 2000 and some midi effects modules. Link
them all up and play them live.


 

Joe from Smog Cloud on 2001-07-05 13:07 [#00012452]



I am with James there, f#ck getting a load of programs and
just churning out a load of anal geek machine-spew. Get a
broken drum machine, a schizo eight-track digital recorder,
a kid's keyboard and a 1982 sampler. Then get pissed and
play all this cack like a man. Computer-based music is for
nerds and scaredy cats. Buy shit with knobs on.


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 13:08 [#00012453]



I have limited exerience with "hands on" equipment

But it is not possible to play computers live and also have
a few effects to alter manualy?

Are computers not more flexible, in that many extra little
effects programmes can be used with other software?


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 13:08 [#00012454]



I have limited exerience with "hands on" equipment

But it is not possible to play computers live and also have
a few effects to alter manualy?

Are computers not more flexible, in that many extra little
effects programmes can be used with other software?


 

Joe from Smog Cloud on 2001-07-05 13:17 [#00012455]



All I ever use a PC for now is Rebirth (a Roland 303
emulation program), bcuz I find that staring at music as
'data' on a screen tends to affect your judgement of what
you want. Things stop becoming instinctive, and you end up
letting the program you are using guide your hand,
unwillingly. It all depends what you want . . . I like stuff
that sounds live, out of time, scruffy and scratchy. If you
are after super-precise, Autechre style beats, then you are
going to have to use a computer, but to get a rough,
instuitive feel, it's got to be all hands on knobs. I'm sure
someone out there will disagree with me, of course . . .


 

hedtwin from manchester on 2001-07-05 13:29 [#00012457]



I reckon machiens are better myself. I haev not got any
(apart from a mental korg thing thats from teh 50's or
something)

You want to be able 2 turn knobs and stuff :-). Yeah. Thats
the shit. He he he he



 

dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breathing fire on 2001-07-05 13:48 [#00012461]



use everything that you can lay your hands on ive got 3
sequencers a sampler and two computers pc/mac and they all
work tikkedey boo ps knobs and twiddlers totaly piss on
mouse cliks


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-07-05 13:50 [#00012463]



does somebody use the BOSS dr770 dummachine ? got some good
homemade rhythms ?


 

Richard from MIR-spacestation on 2001-07-05 14:09 [#00012465]



SCREW ALL OF THAT, THE ONLY SOFTWARE YOU NEED IS
FRUITYLOOPS3.
IT 'LL KEEP YOU BUSY FOR YEARS-


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 14:17 [#00012466]



Shit I come back the next day and all you guys have written
a shit load of stuff. Thanks very much it is well
aprechiated.


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 14:30 [#00012467]



With hands on equipment is it possible to save ideas like
you are able to on computers ?

There is an item called a phatboy which i believe allows for
manipulation of computer programmes.

There is a piece of kit by midi man coming out soon that
allows for live manipulation.

It looks great


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-07-05 14:31 [#00012468]



Frutyloops is good, but not for all....it's a normal
allround soft seq., bit ponystyle


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 14:32 [#00012470]



Sacry Bear

Have you decided yet ?


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-07-05 14:32 [#00012471]



*listen to phloam* god damn, good old aphex style *search
for tb303* :)>


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-07-05 14:35 [#00012473]



i thin rich triggred his own homemade sampler via tb303 ?
no? can it be? the rhythms from phloam are so....i dunno
roland tb303 step style ? *rewind*


 

map[warp/rephlex-aholic] from CH - Mulligan on 2001-07-05 14:37 [#00012474]



and i think somelike phloam you can make with hands on
equipment, without computer....really

ah fnck i wish i can speak english !! i'm a lush
swiss/german guy


 

hevquip from an egren's coffee shop on 2001-07-05 16:35 [#00012497]



i prefer hardware. i think more work (which isn't all that
bad, because in the end if feels more worthwhile) goes into
making songs and you also have the joy of finding or making
your own sounds and being able to fiddle with them.


 

Frey Bentos from Chimp City on 2001-07-05 16:41 [#00012508]



Definitely. It IS a lot more effort, and you WILL cry at
times, but machines become extensions of your self in a way
a computer never can . . .


 

wizards teeth on 2001-07-05 16:48 [#00012512]



Hello Frey Bentos

I like your name

I don't know if you are related but in england we have frey
bentos pies.

They are pies in tins.

Pies in tins - Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hee hee hee hee
hee hee hee ha ha ha hee hee hee ha ha ha hee

I love the concept of pis in tin

It makes me laugh so much

Ha ha ha hee hee hee hee ha hee ha hee hee ha ha hee hee ha

Mince in a tin

Ha ha ha ha hee hee hee hee ha hee ha ha hee

I wanna have a pie out of a can and be able to drink it.

Can I have a pint of mince pie please land lord

I love pies and mince and tins, hence I love frey bentos pie
tins.

Please can someone tell me if i can buy a frey bentos
t-shirt from anywhere

Bye


 

Frey Bentos from Chimp City on 2001-07-05 16:57 [#00012514]



I believe you can make a Frey Bentos t-shirt by simply
mashing a steak and kidney pie onto an old Saxon tour
t-shirt and allowing it to 'gestate' in your airing
cupboard. Also works for Pukka.


 

Glitch from New Zealand on 2001-07-05 17:09 [#00012517]



if possible get Hardware and Software, but it is alot easier
to use software on its own obviously, like Im trying to find
a way to hook up my pc to a Korg Synth and a old Yamaha drum
machine, I can hook up the synth fine and it works, but
everytime I plug my drum machine into the pc without the
synth the pc crashes >:( and the only way it will work is if
it is run from the synth, but then the synth slows down and
wont play itself, which of course make me Extra angry. the
problem I think is different forms of midi on the synth and
drum machine, bah


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 23:44 [#00012591]



Wizards Teeth: Sort of, lack of money is holding me back
from hardware so I'm starting off with Fruity Loops. Cheers
mate.
********************
CAUTION!
DANGER!
********************

READ BELOW FOR SAFETY

The mince and Frey Bentos pies have been known to rupture
people's spleems, but only when they have had former
dealings with the rare Yellow Capped Coca Cola bottles. A
large percentage of these poor people have also admitted to
having pint glass fetiches. It is proven that they are an
official treat if combined with the former.

The Tins however ARE EXTREMELY...

...HARMLESS

(unless you wear shoes, in which case you're fucked)


 

Scary Bear on 2001-07-05 23:47 [#00012594]



THREAT! READ BACK ON THE FORMER POST. TREAT IS ACTUALLY A
MIS-SPELT 'THREAT'

YOUR SPLEEM MAY DEPEND ON IT!


 


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