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All languages that I am aware of have a word that can be translated as »truth«: Wahrheit, vérité, veritas, אמת, حقیقت, ἀλήθεια, 真相, правда, and so on. But does the understanding differ? What is your take on truth? Truth as a quality of propositions which correspond to facts? Truth as the quality of ideas which help to navigate the world successfully? Truth as a lie whose status as a lie has been forgotten? Truth as doing justice to the Other? Truth as awareness of the field of emptiness (शून्यता)? Truth as knowing the Other sexually? Truth as the truth-event in which all beings gather into one shared linguistic structure? What do you think? What? |
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i'd like to discuss Truth as knowing the Other sexually |
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if someone comes up to you and says i'd like to know you sexually would you be open to it |
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I'm with mermaidman one this one: Truth as knowing the Other sexually. I am glad we have helped you settle this thorny issue. Feel free to ask about others. Or the Others. |
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Hegel said that truth is in the hole so that all sounds in order. Carry on. |
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people should read Snowcrash |
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there is no fucking emptiness unless you meditate and starve like the buddha in order to nullify your mind, truth is constant and concrete yet metaphysical manifestation of the bonding of our mind with the surroundings, and especially spoken music is an extraordinary vehicle for doing so. I'm out. |
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oh and what does it do? help to navigate the world successfully for sure, but as a quality if ideas? weak and unlikely. |
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i am entirely undecided on the subject of the platonic existence of truth |
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a convenient answer that is not actually an answer at all is that truth is the product of a functioning epistemological process |
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Well, as is well known the Hebrew Bible uses the same word for having sex and gaining knowledge (יָדַע), for instance in Gen 4:17 »Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch.« So is knowledge an intimate relation to the known whose hidden being one discloses, lays bare, brings to light? But is the truth of »Water = H20« dependent on a similar intimate relationship? |
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Potentially, yes |
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What pulls you towards Platonism? What pushes you away from it? |
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What do you think about John Cage's Empty Words performances? It consists of spoken words, but of spoken words with no regular meaning. (And it lead to riots in Milan in 1977) |
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I dont know it, by the way I was talking about any vocal music not the spoken word genre |
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Basically, maths does function as a sort of socially constructed rule-based game, but judgements of truth and validity seem more solid than mere convention, which hints at some sort of metaphysical existence for truth. But I suspect the real answer is to go kantiam with it and posit truth as a necessary condition for our phenomenology. (Which in turns leads me to wonder if this is not also a sort of platonism, except situated in our phenomenological reality instead of a metaphysical realm of forms.) |
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