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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 07:59 [#02636981]
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(in my lifetime, from my own centristâ„¢ perspective)
1. Ronald Regan +3 (Personality ++, Policy+) 2. George H. W. Bush -2 (Personality -, Policy -) 3. Bill Clinton +2 (Personality ++, Policy nil) 4. George W. Bush +0 (Personality ++, Policy --) 5. Barack Obama +0 (Personality ++, Policy nil) 6. Donald Trump -1 (Personality --, Policy +) 7. Joe Biden -4 (Personality --, Policy --)
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 08:00 [#02636982]
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Sorry Obama up 2 points. I liked him.
So ranking:
Regan Clinton Obama W. Bush Trump H. W. Bush Biden.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 08:06 [#02636983]
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Main criteria I guess, is
Did you get us into an expensive, pointless war for oil?
Are you funny?
and Do you command with a thick enough skin to be called a leader?
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 08:07 [#02636984]
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btw tony xi jingping and chairman mao both -1000.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-07-15 08:56 [#02636986]
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kang +1 (for holding hands with kodos, and well because.. tentacles)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-07-15 10:49 [#02636990]
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They're all horrible but
1. Obama 2. Clinton 3. Biden 4. Bush the Elder 5. Bush the Younger 6. Trump 7. Reagan
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-07-15 10:50 [#02636991]
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How do you feel about Reagan's response to the AIDS epidemic?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-07-15 16:27 [#02636992]
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-07-15 16:28 [#02636993]
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Well that black guy and his wife did good. And That one guy that had the girl under his desk
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2024-07-15 17:29 [#02636998]
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Putin
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 20:52 [#02637005]
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earnest good faith answer
Dunno too much about his response there, just skimmed through the wiki entry Ronald Reagan and AIDS, and there's some good, some bad. Most of it details this C. Everett Coop guy, who I only really know from the Ali G interview (does you think that maybe I might never die?).
This socially conservative moral high approach he takes on some issues is probably the main reason Regan lost a point with me to begin with. The left takes a similar approach today with equity driven self righteous moral grandstanding. It's the same shit, different spin. I think the Christian, religious right end started to lose traction a long time ago. I feel the Clinton, Bush, Obama era had less of this garbage, it's just come back to the mainstream in a big way with some extremely sanctimonious progressive thinking. It looks different today, but it amounts to the same oppressive ONE RIGHTOUS WAY OF THINKING nonsense.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-07-15 21:30 [#02637007]
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Interesting answer!
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-07-15 21:53 [#02637008]
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thanks. I really don't know much about AIDS in the 80s. I'm glad that in the west, it's sorted to the point where people are actively protecting themselves more than ever and there are drugs that seem to all but cure it.
If you want the most direct statement here it is...
The best of that wiki article was that Regan called for some human compassion for AIDS victims. I'll give him that, Trump probably WOULDN'T have done the same in that era.
The WORST of that article is that Regan essentially outright said homosexuality is a sin. What a bullshit stance. The concept of a sin in general, when morality is so clearly subjective, is so clearly bullshit to me. Two sexy dudes fucking, get at it boys. I legit hope the sex is good and beyond that, that you bears can cozy up, feel comfortable and enjoy your life, watch a little Breaking Bad and fuck all this nonsense.
I'm too stupid to actually put it any more succintly, but it conveys the general idea when it comes to social issues.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-07-16 11:38 [#02637028]
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You seem to be very focused on discourse and surface statements rather than actual policy effects. It's a little funny coming from someone who complains about moralising so much! Personally I think refusing to even acknowledge the illness publicly until like 50,000 people had died is the damning part.
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big
from lsg on 2024-07-16 13:31 [#02637029]
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this is probably my list
don't exactly know who did best for policy. maybe biden is good and obama pretty bad in that regard
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big
from lsg on 2024-07-16 13:32 [#02637030]
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israel though
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-07-16 16:04 [#02637032]
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I am cheered by the thought that there will be a last American president, probably soon.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-07-16 23:46 [#02637036]
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i am running for president. my platform is: 420 smoke weed in the oval office everyday
details:
- 420 smoke weed in the oval office everyday
- i cannot stand things that are poorly engineered and compulsively re-engineer them, even if no one wants me to. as president, i can make lots of other people do this for me
- i am patient when someone has ears to learn, but i do not suffer fools gladly
- i will be a one-term president both because a) 4 years is enough of my life fixing everyone else's horseshit b) people will be sick of me by then too
- as a one-term president, i will get stuff done instead of running a long advertisement for re-election
- the law banning ex-presidents from driving cars will be repealed to fuck. because you motherfuckers. i do all this shit for you, you want to take away my keys? that's for biden
vote for me
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-07-17 00:12 [#02637037]
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that was sooner than I expected!
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-07-17 00:43 [#02637038]
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Fecalith
that's the condition. that i can't stop pooping myself before, during, and after the SWAT team dragging me out of the house naked. WE'RE INJECTING YOU WITH KETAMINE, GEOFFREY the asshat jock EMT declares. they jab me in both shoulders at once. i noticed no subjective effects; no shulgin scale. all it did was piss me off even more
this is the america i woke up in a week and a half ago and i'd like to fix it, patriots
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mermaidman
on 2024-07-17 11:02 [#02637042]
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this dude changed his drug from weed to something else clearly
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-07-17 11:31 [#02637043]
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i've told you, it's the adderall
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2024-07-18 03:14 [#02637050]
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Lincoln is 1st, Trueman is last.
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