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Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani &
Benny Morris | Lex Fridman Podcast #418
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big
from lsg on 2024-03-22 06:37 [#02633811]
Points: 23624 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02633800 | Show recordbag
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i guess i did use it as a slur in this instance. so that wasn't good
but... i try to talk about Zionism in general because so many people, liberals really, don't know about it (mostly don't want to know, of course). they want to think Palestine is some religious conflict. and 'very complicated' (it *is*, but also not). (just like how they don't know about Western colonialism, and how that's still ongoing)
also i've seen it used as call-out in leftist circles. i've seen real life examples of Jews promoting inclusivity, while actually also supporting Zionism, who were then called out as 'Zionist'. but that's then done by antizionist Jews, which i'm not (but i picked it up from there a bit, too)
conceding to your point: i do see the value of focusing on the actual government and ideas, instead of making Zionists or even Zionism the bad guy
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big
from lsg on 2024-03-22 06:41 [#02633812]
Points: 23624 Status: Regular | Followup to big: #02633811 | Show recordbag
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and a good call-out for instance is also to say the two state solution is also Zionism. liberal Zionism, probably. (yes, this is also a complicated issue with many sides)
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big
from lsg on 2024-03-22 06:50 [#02633814]
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something different: i'll also concede Destiny can also be a productive member of society (if he's a net good, i doubt, tbh)
apparently he now debated or had a talk with Kermit Daddy and he didn't suck up to him:
LAZY_TITLE
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mermaidman
on 2024-03-22 08:58 [#02633815]
Points: 8299 Status: Regular
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my leftist circle is so ready for you
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big
from lsg on 2024-03-22 09:12 [#02633816]
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:D
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2024-03-22 13:08 [#02633817]
Points: 1997 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02633800
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I will really try better and I'm mortified by the absolute ignorant billocks I've said. I'm a very bitter old drunk but this is no excuse. I will also make an effort not to wade into matters that are clearly beyond me. I will stick to Roger Wilco's Whimsical Take mode.
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RussellDust
on 2024-03-22 22:00 [#02633842]
Points: 16052 Status: Regular
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Now let’s fuck!
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2024-03-22 23:49 [#02633853]
Points: 1997 Status: Regular
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My knob's out! And my bum, if that's... what you like.
Bum... hole.
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