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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-28 22:13 [#02632923]
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 1. I looked up this guy. was absolutely no surprise that  he's a terminally online redditor that constantly posts  about white privilege. I mean who else would be enough of a  moron to think such a "protest" would make a difference? You  don't even live in Isreal or Gaza, clown. Who ARE you  talking to? You think nettin yahoo gives a fuck about a  woketard setting himself on fire in the US?
 
  2. With this in mind, I thought it would be OK to watch the  video of him setting himself aflame. Cause hes a fucking  moron, right. Boy, what a serious mistake. I watched it and  the color drained out of my vision, I felt sick to my  stomach. Dizzy. 2 days layer and I sorta can't get the image  out of my mind. I don't care who you are, It's very bad to  watch someone die like that. I don't think we're really  equipped for it. If I could take it back I'd probably rather  suffer a minor burn (picking up a too hot pan) than watch  that or anything like it ever again.
 
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           Roger Wilco
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Well, it's the Internet isn't it?
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
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Yeah I learned the lesson ages ago that I personally don't  wanna click stuff like that. I guess I needed a refresher,  but it was a very unpleasant one. 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-28 22:31 [#02632927]
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Also it didn't make me respect his position even one ioata  more. Rather I just wish he died in vain with his camera  critcally malfunctioning. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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First thought was he was severely depressed and mentally ill  
 
  Did you see the cop pointing a gun at him saying "get on the  ground" and the guy is completely consumed by flames  screaming 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-28 23:58 [#02632934]
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Yeah, no training for that situation.
  Honestly he was so badly fucked up so fast the cop with the  gun SHOULD have just shot him to put him out any potential  misery. There was no coming back from that. 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-29 00:00 [#02632935]
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dont watch the video bros im not memeing. it's bad.
 
  
         
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           Roger Wilco
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It sounds horrible and no, I can't take that sort of thing.  At the end of it all it's just a sad story. He's no martyr,  if anything it'll reinforce people's opinion that the  Pro-Palestine, anti-White/Colonialism lot are whack jobs. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-29 11:51 [#02632940]
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Yeah thinking about it the Cop must have been in shock. He  should have done a mercy clipping but your mind doesn't work  in situations like that, total mindfuck 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Yeah I get the distinct feeling this was the last in a long  line of things that pushed that guy over the edge. You don't  self immolate unless you're mentally unstable I think for  the simple reason that its an extremely unpleasant way to  die.  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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And yes I know there have been principled martyrs throughout  history but I think perhaps most of they were suicidal to  begin with or had no way out of the situation they found  themselves in. 
 
  I think this is just indicative of the mental health crisis  they have in the armed forces 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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I know its mental illness because I used to spend all my  time listening to ideologues on social media myself  
 
  
         
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           recycle
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           Wolfslice
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           Wolfslice
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merm: yeah I did. I made a mistake and googled the full  video. Like it would be funny or something. It wasn't at  all. 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
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if you want an odd one to watch without the blur, try the  new zealand mosque shooter guy. he's all cheery and chipper  throughout and sounds exactly like the EEVBlog guy narrating  as he shoots people in the street
 
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           Hyperflake
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the worst bit was after the camera panned away and he was  screaming in torment, that's why I'm of the opinion its not  worth burning yourself to death even over a pile of bombed  dead babies 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-29 16:25 [#02632967]
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hype-flakes: It'd be hard to call him a martyr under any  conditions cuz I feel martyrs have to already be an icon,  already directly connected to this situation. A father who  lost all his children in a war, a political dissident etc.  This guy lived across the damn globe and had no involvement  in anything relevant. Reddit 24/7 It was just a misguided  play for attention, imo-- clearly he wanted to be SEEN as a  martyr but he didn't understand the logistics.
 
  He may well have been mentally ill, but I read a bunch of  his reddit posts (powers that be locked up his account now),  up to and including the day he pulled his stunt. He had all  sorts of interests related to racial and economic  inequalities. Relatively few recent things to say  specifically on Isreal and Palestine, though they were  mentioned. His posts were cogent and full of the regular  extreme progressive talking points; that is to say he was an  easily identifiable reddit archetype. He was even talking  about the Elden Ring DLC which is coming out, and it  genuinely makes me sad that he won't get to play it. What  could have made him snap in the course of a few hours? 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
             from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-29 16:25 [#02632968]
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Just waiting till someone does a slow motion grey scale edit  with that "Sad World" acoustic cover over the top 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-29 16:26 [#02632969]
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I definitely skipped that mosque shooting bullshit.
  Did that video fuck you up in anyway? I'm being really  honest here, this video fucked me up a bit. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Oh yeah i mean people who can do this can seem completely  lucid, and rational on the run up to actions like this, but  I don't think the act itself is capable from someone of a  sound mind, i think you have to be on the way out mentally  to even attempt it.  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Its the act itself IMO that negates everything else, the  rationalisations of the action, his personal beliefs  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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           Hyperflake
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I genuinely feel terrible for the guy, I know its a sick  world and he must have felt it was an act of utter  desperation cos he has no agency otherwise to do anything  else that might help but it wasn't worth it 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-29 16:36 [#02632977]
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it's actually quite entertaining if you emotionally distance  yourself from what's going on. which is not hard; it was  just so utterly surreal
 
  didn't mess me up at all. it's like watching counterstrike  vids on youtube. just pop and someone crumples
 
  there's no gore, really. watching someone burn will mess you  up though, i don't watch that 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Yeah i wonder how much it was like a snap decision to go  though with that plan, someone might have said the wrong  word to him that day, and that was the straw that broke the  camel's back 
 
  I think about these things quite a bit. If it passed his  life would have just continued  
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-29 16:43 [#02632979]
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I totally agree. I feel really bad too.
  Having read some of his posts, it's like--- if he JUST cared  about this one thing thing, ok. I kinda get it. But  motherfucker was talking about the price point value of the  Elden Ring DLC (out june 20th) like he was gonna play it.  Makes you wonder if at the last moment he realized what a  catastrophic fuck up he made, and that is a very, very  unpleasant thought. Even if he was a total idiot, I hope his  conviction never wavered at the end. 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
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these things are never a snap decision. people nurse these  plans over weeks, months. the confusion arises from the fact  that yes, there is something that pushes them over the edge  to finally do it. there was some high-roller gambler that  started shooting up a concert from comp'd a las vegas hotel  room one day, no one could figure out a reason, and it's  like "well we think he was basically out of money and  someone said something to him in the lobby after he lost a  lawsuit slipping on a drink" and so it's kind of YES to  everything: YES he planned this for ages, YES it's because  he ran out of money YES it's because he was mad over some  lawsuit, and YES some random trivial shit finally triggered  the actual event. where he shot 50 people at random
 
  the problem is no one cares about these people until they go  over the edge. oh, you're not suicidal? then fuck off it  can't be too bad
 
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           Hyperflake
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Yeah I agree i suppose what I meant to say is snap to go  into full action rather than putting it off again, he must  have had the idea for a long time, but there can be instance  where people are either committed to doing it for a long  time or are still wavering and something my push them over  the edge, i just wonder which one it was 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Yeah if it came out a while sooner he might have just played  that and tried to put Gaza/reddit to the back of his mind. I  know there is the old adage where that say "The only thing  necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do  nothing" but whoever wrote that quote didn't take into  account the utter intractability of the middle east issue. 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
             from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-02-29 17:18 [#02632986]
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yeah "Idle hands do the Devil's work."
  Good expression. Take those idle hands and make a tune. Or  play The Case of the Golden Idol. (Directly recommend, Obra Dinn  Fill-In-The-Blanks like)
 
  I have to put my idle hands to work taking my wife for her  blood tests (routine, all is well aside from her bum knee  and that's cuz were all just getting old). Always nice to  have a chat w u hyperflake. 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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Thanks mate, yeah i think everyone is of the same mindset  that its a tragic thing and wish it didn't occur it was  quite harrowing to see the vid I must admit and I've seen  loads of bad shit on the net.  
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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the only one I laughed at was when the Chinese guy jumped  into a crucifix of motel metal to commit suicide. Wife must  have been nagging him and home. Anyway he instantaneously  exploded into smithereens and it was so unexpected you  couldn't help but laugh in a dark way. Life is utterly  absurd half the time 
 
  
         
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           Hyperflake
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           Hyperflake
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oh yeah his name was Wang Long no joke and he lost money on  the stock market 
 
  
         
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           Wolfslice
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           Tony Danza
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"To burn oneself by fire is to prove that what one is saying  is of the utmost importance. There is nothing more painful  than burning oneself. To say something while experiencing  this kind of pain is to say it with utmost courage,  frankness, determination, and sincerity."
 
  - Thich Nhat Hanh in a letter to MLK Jr. regarding the  self-immolation of Vietnamese Buddhist monks 
 
  
         
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           big
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           big
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Rest in power Aaron Bushnell
  this is a good article from a source he probably read, because he  send the link to his stream to them
 
  "If your heart is broken by the horrors in Gaza and you are  prepared to bear significant consequences to try to stop  them, we urge you to do everything in your power to find  comrades and make plans collectively. Lay the foundations  for a full life of resistance to colonialism and all forms  of oppression. Prepare to take risks as your conscience  demands, but don’t hurry towards self-destruction. We  desperately need you alive, at our side, for all that is to  come." 
 
  
         
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           big
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somewhat of a different kind of take, by Bad Empanada:  LAZY_TITLE 
 
  
         
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