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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-07 15:08 [#02632355]
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time signatures matter to those moving their feet, not just
to those twiddling knobs on a computer. Intelligent dance
music had a hidden clue in it all along. And i never noticed
it while thinking about compressors, midi interfaces and
low-pass filters..


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 18:43 [#02632357]
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its just one step to the left...
hi monoid!


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2024-02-07 20:55 [#02632360]
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Wish more people would come to the same conclusion,


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2024-02-07 21:01 [#02632361]
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Hi Monoid! Good to see you alive and kicking! Can I listen
to your knobtweaking somewhere?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 22:12 [#02632363]
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yeh, in his bedroom
~badumm tch~


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-07 22:34 [#02632365]
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A/S/L Monoid?


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-07 22:37 [#02632367]
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Mon Mon, where’s your chunes mate?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-07 22:41 [#02632369]
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yes, let us chune ine


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-07 22:58 [#02632373]
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Nah, i gotta get better first


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2024-02-07 23:26 [#02632374]
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glad you made that joke, from you I can handle it 😀

Ps saw that one coming..all.over the place


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2024-02-07 23:27 [#02632375]
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Still suffering from depression/mental illness?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-08 01:05 [#02632377]
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I never suffred from depression or any mental illness.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-08 01:38 [#02632378]
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I think coming. Back here is a depression and mental issue
mate.


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-08 01:39 [#02632379]
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-craz, I think you’re mistaking him for the other 99% of
participants on the bored?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-08 04:43 [#02632380]
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I am 99% of the other participants herr


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-08 05:24 [#02632381]
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Ok, here is some Track i recently made on my Ipad. It
doesn't fit into IDM Genre. The reason for this is because i
was learning some basic concepts of music theory, like
chords, scales, melody, counter melody etc.

Dorian Mode


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2024-02-08 07:30 [#02632382]
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sounds rather professional
keep it going


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-08 16:31 [#02632404]
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i ain’t to proud to beg
keep it going


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2024-02-11 21:38 [#02632523]
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Great to hear. Your music sounds happy too!


 

offline raskolnikov from Miami (Mexico) on 2024-02-19 04:40 [#02632682]
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Are you still here monoid? I used to read your post 20 years
ago...


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2024-02-21 22:07 [#02632778]
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raskolnikov!!!!!

Monoid don’t die. He just faded and gets older and comes.
Back like many


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-23 05:06 [#02632798]
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Yeah, i am the guy from 20 years ago.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-24 06:56 [#02632812]
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is time signature discrete or continuous?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-24 11:33 [#02632813]
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Time signature is considered discrete. It specifies how many
beats are in each measure and what note value constitutes a
beat.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-02-24 13:31 [#02632814]
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rhythm is not frightening it's good


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-24 13:49 [#02632815]
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ok. so

A] what happens to music if we make time signature
continuous?

b) have you ever tried signing your time with your
non-dominant hand [to increase inter-hemisphere
entanglement]?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2024-02-24 17:18 [#02632822]
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Notation would need to evolve to accommodate the continuous
change in rhythmic structure. The listening experience might
become more complex and potentially more engaging, as the
lack of a predictable rhythmic structure could lead to
unexpected shifts in tempo and ryrhm.

I can't play any musical instrument. I depend on computers
and music theory to compose something.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-24 19:06 [#02632823]
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here is some new notation

one
SAM_0854
a
b
fig. a
sam. 875
UMSAM0876



 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-02-24 22:48 [#02632825]
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i don't think anything particularly interesting happens if
we make time signatures continuous? like it would mean the
music could be in an irrational number, is that what you
have in mind? i think our ear would just find the closest
rational approximation ... i don't know, i'm going to think
about it more


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-25 17:47 [#02632842]
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maybe penrose tiling would help


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-02-25 19:13 [#02632845]
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what if the time signature is negative


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-02-25 19:14 [#02632846]
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what if you overflow the pitch


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-25 19:30 [#02632847]
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you can't oscillate thru zero. it's madness


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-02-28 18:37 [#02632895]
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the neuroscience of how we perceive time is still very much
"we don't know," last i checked. i would recommend starting
with chronos and kairos


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2024-03-02 19:36 [#02633111]
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what is michael j. fox's time signature?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-03 20:52 [#02633136]
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3/2 same as his pants waist size


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-03 20:53 [#02633137]
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but he goes 29/8 after too much parkinson's meds


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-03 20:56 [#02633138]
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i've been listening to leftfield's Rhythm and Stealth like
crazy recently. i can't believe i didn't find this album
until, like, 2021

they draw so clearly. relevant here, 6/8 war. it's both the
shape of a fat cartoon bomb (if you have to ask... it's not
for you?) and the 6/8 has crossfades eating both sides
continuously for the 6/8 part

seems good for this thred any case. not sure how this track
could have worked as it do without an unusual time zig


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-19 18:51 [#02633672]
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re: nevermind discrete time signatures, we need
continuous time signatures

penrose tiling be like -- the pattern goes forever without
repeating. this means, if you're dropped somewhere into the
middle, you have no idea of telling what pattern you're in.

and yes, if we worked out a scheme with time signature that
evolved based on these patterns, oh... i have too many to
count, here: "it would be the most obnoxious musical concept
i've come up with in a while," or "but i'm not sure this is
relevant because i still have trouble making a coherent
concept out of this" or "it'd be almost as good as autechre"
and on but i think the winner is "...but it'd be nice if
anyone could actually hear what was happening when they
listened to it"

it's simpler to just turn quantize off, do everything
freehand, and turn in a subjective simulation of what you
feel this would be like, if the idea made any sense at all.

continuous time signatures. you heard about hearing about it
on xlt first


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-20 00:48 [#02633701]
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for the efficient gentleman, the best way to find pants that
fit is to use quantum computing -- try every pair of pants
at once simultaneously


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-03-28 01:02 [#02634165]
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oh my lol. when autechre pulled their "you can't pull us
over for rave, because, technically, none of these beats
actually repeat" what formula would they have taken it to
court with? if i were to sit down and try and pull off the
same thing... penrose tiling?


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2024-04-20 14:14 [#02635011]
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Hi Monoid, long time no see. Good to see your name again.

Who was the artist from your old profile picture?


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2024-04-20 15:36 [#02635014]
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franz kline i think


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2024-04-20 18:30 [#02635015]
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I fancy a shandy and a toffee crisp


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2024-04-22 23:59 [#02635030]
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BASS shandy,red triangle first ever trademark

shouts 2 Monoid



 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2024-05-16 17:12 [#02635465]
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Exaclty as it is!

Sound, as presented by subjectivity, made groove its king;
when making music it is our job to subordinate every
parameter to its will


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-16 17:39 [#02635466]
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You know what's fun? Pitch and frequencies are a function of
time too. Music is all about time. It rules.


 

offline kei9 from Argentina on 2024-05-16 19:00 [#02635467]
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Indeed! beat turns into 8bit racing game

Again it is subjectivity that presents to us pitch as
clearly distinct from rhythm, which makes pitch non
reducible to rhythm, even if the former emerges emerges from
the later, which is to say that; even if every harmonic
combination can be described in terms of rhythm the "axioms"
of harmony are still more meaningful or useful metaphors
than understanding their intervals as beats... or maybe
awesome melting harmonies can be made by modulating rhythms
and their speed


 

offline RussellDust on 2024-05-17 05:49 [#02635479]
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Hey Monoid! Hope you’re well!!


 


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